[rpd] Softlanding-Bis decision appeal

[Andrew Alston]

Ali,

Your email makes an assumption that respect of the community is agreeing with something which we fundamentally disagree with.

Our respect was demonstrated when we withdraw our policy - and our opposition to tightening the restrictions in the current policy remain for all the many reasons stated on the floor previously.

When I get a bit of time later I will write something that reiterates every single objection that was stated on the floor over a 2 year period, including multiple requests to withdraw this policy from the floor - which have never been addressed.

This appeal however does not revolve around the substance of the policy - it revolves around procedure and the fact that the definition of consensus is clear - and could not be declared with the way things were sitting. On the substantive policy issues - those we will deal with in parallel through the last call process.

Thanks

Andrew

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From: ALI Hadji Mmadi <alihadji90 at gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, December 1, 2017 1:09:01 PM
To: Andrew Alston
Cc: Afrinic RPD
Subject: Re: [rpd] Softlanding-Bis decision appeal

Hi Andrew
I hope you are doing well.
Reagrding your email, I thing in this case we do not need a
parliamentary group to make a bloc. we need clear and objective ideas.
Following the SL Bis presentation, I realized that the co-authors have
added SL SD ideas. to meet the real need of the community. So instead
of coming together to appeal, I propose that you give cleary your
proposal in order to go ahead in the phase of ratification of the
policy.
A little respect to the community, it is not as clueless as you think it is.
Ali Of Comoros.


2017-12-01 9:19 GMT+01:00 Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com>:
> Hi All,
>
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> Considering the decision to take the soft-landing bis policy into last call
> yesterday – the following individuals wish to state that we are officially
> appealing the decision by the co-chairs in this regard:
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> Ben Maddison
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> Andrew Alston
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> Mark Elkins
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> Christopher Mwangi
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> Over the last 2 years there have been sustained and unaddressed objections
> to this policy. There have been multiple requests by this community to
> withdraw this policy. There was a statement by the authors in Mauritius
> that the policy would be withdrawn that was reneged. The list archives
> clearly show that there was – and remains opposition to this policy. The
> rules of the PDP are clear – consensus is not based on what is said at the
> floor of the meeting alone, but is derived from the sum total of comments
> and objections both on the floor and the lists – and includes any objections
> that are sustained and unaddressed.
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>
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> While we are happy to engage with the chairs on this issue in the public
> forum that is this list – we also see little hope of resolution without
> going to the formal appeal committee should the chairs not decide to reverse
> their decision, which we believe was taken in error.
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>
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> We also welcome any other individuals who wish to add their names to this
> appeal – and note that individuals wishing to do so, by the appeal process,
> are free to join the appeal process irrespective of their comments or lack
> of comments on the policy to date – since the appeal surrounds procedural
> error – rather than the content of the specific policy itself.
>
>
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> Further emails will follow in due course detailing the objections raised on
> the list and the floor of previous meetings that have never been addressed,
> and we will clearly demonstrate the error that was made in the consensus
> declaration.
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> Further to this – any of the appellants reserve the right to continue to
> contribute during the last call for the duration of the appeal and may
> continue to state their objections during the last call – so that in the
> event of this appeal failing – and consensus in last call being declared –
> the ground work is laid for a second appeal.
>
>
>
> Yours Sincerely
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>
>
> Andrew Alston
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