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[rpd] Last Call for "AFPUB-2016-GEN-001-DRAFT-04 - Internet Number Resources Review by AFRINIC"

David Hilario d.hilario at
Tue Jun 27 14:34:32 UTC 2017

On Jun 27, 2017 10:02 PM, "Chevalier du Borg" <virtual.borg at>

2017-06-27 16:17 GMT+04:00 David Hilario <d.hilario at>:

> Let's be a bit more accountable here.   Responsible stewardship requires
> being able to audit and I understand that revocation is a last resort.  I
> support the policy on this basis.
> Stewardship in maintaining an accurate registry.
> Stewardship in ensuring the continuity of the organisation to facilitate
> the distribution of Internet resources.

Stewardship also mean protecting the resources from plunderer  - shady
company that pretends to be African, game the system and take IP addresses
to use primarily outside Africa.

As much as I would love to agree with you, no.
The policies are what the steward must follow.

There was a policy proposal to limit out of region use a while ago.
It got rejected.

> Revocation of allocations by AFRINIC should never happen, allocations are
> not assignments, they are not issued for a dedicated purpose, they are
> registered to the LIR so that the LIR can further distribute the space as
> they see fit within the scope of the policies.

Last time I was in AfriNIC training, I understand that resource (allocation
or assignment) are hand out base upon NEED. When that need can no longer be
justify, the resources must be reclaim.

Database objects have a status attribute, it implies certain things.

Allocations issued to an LIR  so the LIR can issue resources to itself and
it's customers, there are several flavours of status possible underneath
your allocation, each with a specific meaning,

Assignments, issued to a specific user/network for a specific purpose,
where no further IP delegation to other  I parties is needed, when no
longer in use the space returns to the issuer whether it is the RIR or a

Sub-allocation, that space is issued to customers by an LIR, the customer
needs to further delegate the space as assignments.

Assignments will return to the LIR when no longer valid, not to the RIR.

Now, it does not require lots of research  to find out that many
organisations only have registered Sub-allocations with no assignments
under these Sub-allocations, they are then all in policy violation...this
is where we are and the danger they are all running by not following
allocation > Sub-allocation > assignment hierarchy.
Or straight up allocation > assignment once this policy proposal goes

Borg le Chevalier
"Common sense is what tells us the world is flat"

Kind regards,
David Hilario
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