[rpd] Last Call for "AFPUB-2016-GEN-001-DRAFT-04 - Internet Number Resources Review by AFRINIC"

[Lu Heng]

Hi Omo:

I am not label you "racist", I barely point out that you are speaking
publicly that you are not conformable with my race, that is the definition
of that word.

Mr.Cheng have speaked in the policy discussion before, and attended few
AFRINIC meetings, yes, they may not active following mailing list like some
of your guys did, but their achievement that allows billions of AFRICAN to
access internet in this very continent give them every rights to express
their view on the policy.

Being uncomfortable and express such view publicly because someone's
occasionally participation in the mailing list or even worse, because
someone's race or nationality, is not accepted today's moral standard.

I hope you realize that and go back to the policy discussion.

With regards.

Lu

On 27 June 2017 at 21:34, Omo Oaiya <Omo.Oaiya at wacren.net> wrote:

> Lu,
>
> Your response is as diversionary as your attempt to label me racist.
>
> It is hard not to notice that these are names and e-mail addresses that I
> have never encountered in the years I have been on the RPD list (including
> those when I just lurked)
>
> I remain uncomfortable.
>
> Best wishes
> Omo
>
>
>
>
> On 27 June 2017 at 14:12, Lu Heng <h.lu at anytimechinese.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> Mr. Cheng was the platinum sponsor  AFRINIC djibouti meeting, and he is
>> also the VP of CCSI(China Comservice International)'s AFRICAN operation,
>> and he have been lived in Ethiopia for past years to develop AFRICAN
>> internet infrastructure.
>>
>> CCSI is responsible for building many of AFRICAN nations's entire
>> internet infrastructure and provide access of billions of AFRICANs.
>>
>> your accusation are very childish and impolite to a man
>> literately provide internet to billions of your own people.
>>
>> With regards.
>>
>> Lu
>>
>>
>> On 27 June 2017 at 19:35, Tutu Ngcaba <pan.afrikhan at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> How are you Cheng,
>>>
>>> Where you come from.? China maybe?
>>>
>>> ok why are you worried of this policy proposal if you did follow the
>>> instructions of the agreement RSA.
>>>
>>> why you are fearing if you can give report that the ip address used
>>> properly?
>>>
>>> anybody who is not done illegals mustn't be afraid of the policy. Maybe
>>> you are not using the IP address the Afrinic given you now you are panicked
>>> that the Afrinic shall review and find out.
>>>
>>> maybe you are even using it wrong places or selling the ip address in
>>> chinese.
>>>
>>> I did not see any problem at all if all the companies complied to the
>>> agreement of this RSA as per this Afrinic policy.
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Tutu Ngcaba
>>>
>>>
>>> On 27 Jun 2017 12:59 p.m., "chenghn at chinaccsi.com" <
>>> chenghn at chinaccsi.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Co-chairs and community,
>>>>
>>>> After carefully reading through the arguments put forward, I oppose
>>>> this policy.
>>>> As I cannot see any positive outcome from the policy proposal for any
>>>> organizations that are members of AFRINIC.
>>>>
>>>> It places AFRINIC ltd in dangerous legal grounds, it contradicts the
>>>> recently approved transfer policy and will cost money and time for all
>>>> involved parties.
>>>>
>>>> As I cannot see any benefit but only negative impact I would like to
>>>> have my opposition to this policy recorded.
>>>>
>>>> As a representative from a multi-continental organization having
>>>> business across all the globe, I cannot support a policy that may
>>>> affect network operators and an RIR in a negative way.
>>>>
>>>> We strive to always operate under the regulations and policies set in
>>>> place, across all the RIRs as should all LIRs involved in their
>>>> various regions, we cooperate with the RIRs upon request for more
>>>> information.
>>>>
>>>> But this policy leaving things for "better use" to be judged by the
>>>> AFRINIC Ltd is too subjective and cannot be fulfilled.
>>>>
>>>> Then comes the arbitration process.
>>>> Who will be the arbiters?
>>>> How will they be selected?
>>>> Who will approve them ultimately, AFRINIC or the LIR being Audited?
>>>> What information will be provided to the Arbiters?
>>>>
>>>> We understand that as part of an Audit, business critical information
>>>> will need to be shared with AFRINIC Ltd, we cannot accept to further
>>>> share that information with third parties selected from the community,
>>>> this would be a breach of confidentiality and involve sharing company
>>>> sensitive information such as customer lists and current network
>>>> strategies with potential competitors.
>>>>
>>>> AFRINIC Ltd cannot share confidential information provided by its LIR
>>>> to third parties.
>>>>
>>>> What will AFRINIC do when LIR take them to court and makes claims for
>>>> damages?
>>>> The LIRs may very well decide to take AFRINIC to court in their own
>>>> country, AFRINIC will then need to defend themselves in Cameroon or
>>>> Nigeria, all this will cost a lot of money time and resources from
>>>> AFRINIC Ltd, which we will have to pay for.
>>>>
>>>> This makes the policy having negative impact not only on the ones
>>>> being reviewed, but on the entire membership as we will all pay for
>>>> these reviews consequences.
>>>>
>>>> Based on all the above, I again have to state that I formally oppose
>>>> this policy proposal in its current form.
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards
>>>>
>>>> Paul Cheng
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>> Lu
>>
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