[rpd] Correcting some misconceptions about the anti-shutdown policy proposal

Tue Apr 18 14:40:22 UTC 2017

Hi Badru,

The topic of shutdowns concerns an active proposal currently before the policy working group – which is what this list was created for.  I’d say discussing policy on the policy list makes a lot of sense ☺

Andrew

From: Badru Ntege [mailto:badru.ntege at nftconsult.com]
Sent: 18 April 2017 17:35
To: Noah <noah at neo.co.tz>; baldwin.okello at gmail.com
Cc: Sunday Folayan <sfolayan at gmail.com>; rpd List <rpd at afrinic.net>
Subject: Re: [rpd] Correcting some misconceptions about the anti-shutdown policy proposal

On 4/16/17, 1:24 PM, "Noah" <noah at neo.co.tz<mailto:noah at neo.co.tz>> wrote:

Hi Baldwin,

Fair enough, I will move mu concerns on accountability and transparency onto a new thread less folk dodge that bullet.

Puzzled  since the topic on shutdown is really not a technical issue one thinks it should also be moved to discuss so we focus on real technical issues on the rpd list.

Me thinks…

Noah

On 16 Apr 2017 10:48 a.m., "baldwin.okello at gmail.com<mailto:baldwin.okello at gmail.com>" <baldwin.okello at gmail.com<mailto:baldwin.okello at gmail.com>> wrote:
From correcting misconceptions about the ANTI-SHUTDOWN Policy Proposal, now we are at AFRINIC's accountability and Transparency. Why not just start a separate thread for that so some of us can keenly follow the the discussion on the actual subject.

Happy Easter folks
Baldwin

On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 9:15 PM, Noah <noah at neo.co.tz<mailto:noah at neo.co.tz>> wrote:
If you live in a glass house, don't throw stones.

We talk about our governments keeping the internet open, but how well has the board been open to its members and the community?

If i may, where do we stand with improving Afrinic's accountability?

What happened to the bottom up process and transparency?

Cheers,
Noah

On 14 Apr 2017 3:16 p.m., "Arnaud AMELINA" <amelnaud at gmail.com<mailto:amelnaud at gmail.com>> wrote:
Dear Chair,

I feel unhappy that, instead you appreciate member dissatisfaction, empasis, you instead resort into questioning him. This does not bring our community together ?

For exemple  :

Best  practise would be that the board consults membership/community  before making statements like "keeping the Internet  open" ....

Regards

Arnaud

Le 13 avr. 2017 16:47, "Sunday Folayan" <sfolayan at gmail.com<mailto:sfolayan at gmail.com>> a écrit :

Dear Arnaud,

Your statement - "the Board makes decisions unilaterally"
Kindly provide more information on the unilateral decisions taken by the Board, which are not within its purview.

Thanks and Regards ..

Sunday.

On 13/04/2017 16:47, Arnaud AMELINA wrote:
I am sad to see how AFRINIC is currently managed. There is no restraint, no consideration for the community, the Board makes decisions unilaterally, the CEO answers in the place of the authors of a policy, the staff that starts to produce policy, co-chairs that seem helpless To manage the flow, an individual who takes hostage a whole community, when he talks everything is good, when we talk we are shown code-of-conduct. Oh ! Dear members of the community, I am really sad. This is an observation that engages only me I can deceive, if all goes for the best in the world to Afrinic then all my apologies.

2017-04-13 15:27 GMT+00:00 Alan Barrett <alan.barrett at afrinic.net<mailto:alan.barrett at afrinic.net>>:

> On 13 Apr 2017, at 16:02, abel ELITCHA <kmw.elitcha at gmail.com<mailto:kmw.elitcha at gmail.com>> wrote:
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> Dear CEO,
>
> Does the above statements coming from Ceo superseding co-authors or pdp  cochairs?

The authors and PDWG chairs can speak for themselves.  I was speaking as the CEO, attempting to correct some misconceptions.

Alan Barrett

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