[rpd] New Policy Proposal - "Anti-Shutdown (AFPUB-2017-GEN-001-DRAFT-01)"

Thu Apr 13 09:53:44 UTC 2017

Brother Andrew

Its not the first time for such issue to be discussee globally.

After Arab spring and internet cut in Lybia and Egypt civil unrest and
other countries even Syria, this issue has been discussed.

When disaster cause Internet  cut in Haiti or Japan, internet cut is
discussed.

When some governments block facebook or twitter in some countries this
issue was reported globally and even people like Mark Zuckerburg condemn it.

So the draconic policy you propose is not solution even if its discussed in
America or Register of UK and twitter.

This issue for me i believe as an African we can discuss it through wider
community channels and other mailing list and not through harsh policy
proposals.

We discuss it as a fundamental problem that can be addresses through
consultation with different stake holders especially our governments.

Different countries have different culture and different style of
governance, some democratic, others kingdoms, others long standing regimes,
others iron fist.

Only multistake holder engagement is solution and the Afrinic can champion
that among other things like trainings and meetings which the Afrinic
conducts.

Best Regards,

Tutu Ngcaba
Kwazulu Techno Hubs
South Africa

On 13 Apr 2017 12:32 p.m., "Andrew Alston" <Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com>
wrote:

> Interestingly enough – this policy has already served as a catalyst for
> global discussion – and continues to do so.
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> It has appeared all over twitter, it appeared on theregister.co.uk, it
> has appeared in discussions on various IRC chat rooms, it has been debated
> on the enog mailing list and in many other forums around the world.
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> The policy as it stands as I have said, has its flaws, but it is providing
> a platform for discussions about the way forward and potential solutions,
> and as such, I believe it should stand, so that this debate can also be had
> on the floor of the PDP meeting.  Let us debate this issue – and let us
> find common stance to combat the insidious nature of these shutdowns.
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> Andrew
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> *From:* Tutu Ngcaba [mailto:pan.afrikhan at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* 13 April 2017 12:25
> *To:* Kris Seeburn <seeburn.k at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* AfriNIC List <rpd at afrinic.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [rpd] New Policy Proposal - "Anti-Shutdown
> (AFPUB-2017-GEN-001-DRAFT-01)"
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> As you can see this issue not only in our Africa.
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> Can the Afrinic steer this discussion across a wider community.
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> This is not a policy issue, its a hot topical issue that is beyond even
> draconic policy proposal as one of the Authors said.
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> May the Authors widthraw the harsh proposal and let the Afrinic lead and
> engage entire african community through mailing lists like community
> discuss and africann as this lists will engage everyone and encourage a
> multistakeholder wider discussion.
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> Best Regards,
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> Tutu Ngcaba
> Kwazulu Techno Hubs
> South Africa
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> On 13 Apr 2017 12:06 p.m., "Kris Seeburn" <seeburn.k at gmail.com> wrote:
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> I’d like to refer some articles, these are just a few that has been noted.
> However please have a look at the brookings report as well:
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> https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/
> intenet-shutdowns-v-3.pdf
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> It is actually good to look at stats and reality. Again as i said before
> the philosophy of the policy brought forward is a fact that we cannot turn
> our back from, but we as the community need to see what and how best
> interest we can support ourselves and not let governments decide on what we
> as a right to information get through the internet or not. We are all
> reasonable people who understand challenges. Since the UN classifies
> Internet as a human right we should act but i would not necessarily act and
> use the heavy duty artillery in the policy but am sure we can collectively
> find something that can work in the right way.
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> Egypt:
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> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/01/28/egypt_vodafone_shuts/
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> http://dyn.com/blog/egypts-net-on-life-support/
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> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/01/28/egypt_internet_switchoff/
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> https://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/02/01/egypt_last_net_lost/
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> https://www.ft.com/content/08dbe398-2abb-11e0-a2f3-00144feab49a
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> Cameroon:
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> http://edition.cnn.com/2017/02/03/africa/internet-shutdown-cameroon/
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> https://qz.com/942879/an-internet-shutdown-in-cameroon-
> has-forced-startups-to-create-an-internet-refugee-camp-in-bonako-village/
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> http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-38895541
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> http://africanarguments.org/2017/03/10/cameroon-sabotages-
> own-digital-economy-plan-with-internet-shutdown/
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> http://www.africanews.com/2017/02/18/cameroon-internet-
> shutdown-costs-139m//
> <http://www.africanews.com/2017/02/18/cameroon-internet-shutdown-costs-139m/>
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> http://www.ohchr.org/EN/NewsEvents/Pages/DisplayNews.
> aspx?NewsID=21165&LangID=E
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> http://www.africanews.com/2017/02/14/cameroon-must-
> urgently-free-the-internet-in-anglophone-regions-un-expert//
> <http://www.africanews.com/2017/02/14/cameroon-must-urgently-free-the-internet-in-anglophone-regions-un-expert/>
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> https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/2017/01/cameroon-
> actively-blocking-internet-access-english-speaking-parts-country/
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> Bangladesh:
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> https://advox.globalvoices.org/2016/08/05/bangladesh-
> shuts-down-the-internet-then-orders-blocking-of-35-news-websites/
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> http://www.gulf-times.com/story/519071/Internet-
> shutdowns-for-25-days-cost-Bangladesh-70m
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> Turkey:
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> https://turkeyblocks.org/2016/10/27/new-internet-shutdown-
> turkey-southeast-offline-diyarbakir-unrest/
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> https://turkeyblocks.org/2016/09/11/internet-shutdown-turkey-southeast/
>
> https://www.engadget.com/2016/10/27/turkey-internet-
> shutdown-kurdish-cities/
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> http://www.salon.com/2016/11/03/turkey-shuts-down-social-
> media-detains-elected-lawmakers-from-leftist-pro-kurdish-party/
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> http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/turkey-uses-emergency-decree-
> shut-down-internet-11-kurdish-cities-amid-widespread-protests-1588701
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> DRC:
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> https://qz.com/864617/dr-congo-calls-for-social-media-
> networks-to-be-blocked-from-midnight-sunday-ahead-of-anti-kabila-protests/
>
> https://www.accessnow.org/ways-circumvent-internet-
> shutdown-democratic-republic-congo/
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> https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2016/12/drc-must-
> rescind-order-to-block-social-media-sites/
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> http://punchng.com/internet-shutdown-dr-congo-kabila-
> elongates-tenure-alarms-un/
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> https://www.wsj.com/articles/congo-blocks-internet-access-
> amid-protests-against-president-kabila-1421938042
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> https://cpj.org/2015/01/drc-halts-internet-access-and-
> cellphone-services-a.php
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> http://www.africareview.com/news/DR-Congo-orders-social-
> networks-shut-as-Kabila-term-expires/979180-3487916-format-
> xhtml-mux74h/index.html
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> http://allafrica.com/stories/201612190934.html
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> http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=55827#.WO873FOGPnU
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> On Apr 13, 2017, at 12:20 PM, Mukom Akong T. <mukom.tamon at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> **no hats**
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> On 13 April 2017 at 11:56, Arnaud AMELINA <amelnaud at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Hmmm! Very bad observation, do you want to confirm us through this
> observation that Afrinic has no system of redundancy and did not foresee in
> the case just where the Internet was cut in Mauritius. It is dangerous
> that, I then call Afrinic technical staff to kindly from this day put
> himself in condition to set up a backup in case of this has not been done
> yet.
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> - technical (infrastructure, server) redundancy  *is not equal to* human
> resource redundancy.
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> - infrastructure redundancy has HR redundancy as it's bottle neck
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> - no organization I know of has double of each staff in different
> countries for the purpose of redundancy. Reality is that in the event of a
> shutdown, even with technical redundancy -  capacity will be diminished.
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