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[rpd] Statistics on IPV4 allocation in Africa as of 2016

Ojikah Celestine celestineojikah at
Mon Aug 22 12:12:01 UTC 2016

Andrew,I agree with you on that, well said. 

    On Monday, August 22, 2016 3:28 AM, Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston at> wrote:

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Sent: 22 August 2016 12:55
To: Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston at>; Willy MANGA <mangawilly at>; rpd at
Subject: Re: [rpd] Statistics on IPV4 allocation in Africa as of 2016    Andrew, This is precisely the reason why we need to adopt measures that will encourage operators to adopt v6, necessity as they say is the mother of invention, people will learn as they go along but must first begin. If we give the impression that we can always fall back on v4 because of some of the reasons you postulated, people are never gonna find a way to get to that point in v6 adoption that we all wish for, we must push for v6 adoption, make our mistakes,learn from them and get to eldorado.        On Monday, August 22, 2016 2:38 AM, Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston at> wrote:    Willy,

Again, I agree, though I also think that providing a plan needs to have more than that just a plan, there needs to actually be action on this plan as well (even with it being a difficult thing to do).

It concerns me that we are at the point where we are, yet right now, for all the talk, I see very little actual deployment of v6 beyond core networks.

There are a few operators I have seen that have been doing some good work out there but its few and far between, many are talking about plans, but sadly, I'm not seeing much beyond plans and talk.

A PLAN is meaningless if that is all it remains.


-----Original Message-----
From: Willy MANGA [mailto:mangawilly at]
Sent: 22 August 2016 11:59
To: Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston at>; Ojikah Celestine <celestineojikah at>;rpd at
Subject: Re: [rpd] Statistics on IPV4 allocation in Africa as of 2016

Hello Andrew,

Le 22/08/2016 à 09:25, Andrew Alston a écrit :
>  [...] So what I am saying is, you can have no less focus on
> v4 than before, it's still critical, it's still necessary, it cannot 
> be avoided.  Let's get that out of our heads once and for all and 
> accept that fact.  Yes, we want v6, yes, we need v6, and without v6 
> going forward we are going to be screwed, but it does not diminish the 
> need for v4 in the slightest at this point in time.

I agree with you but I will be much in favor with those who start to deploy v6 like than those who whant v4 without providing any CONCRETE v6 plan.

Willy Manga
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Ubuntu Cameroonian Loco Team    

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