[rpd] Statistics on IPV4 allocation in Africa as of 2016

Thu Jun 16 08:53:29 UTC 2016

Hello People,

At the moment, the v4 space is less than 0.6 of a /8 before we hit
soft-landing. This gives an indication that we are already depleting v4
steadily and significantly even as we speak and deliberate. Once we hit
soft-landing and implementation of the current policy would imply that big
providers requiring huge v4 space would naturally embrace v6 since the
current soft-landing policy will not meet their needs.

Overall, i think the need for the phrase "rapid depletion" may not be so
important once we hit final /8 as the focus will start tending towards v6
for major players since they won't be able to get enough v4 resource they
require anyway.

Regards

On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 9:26 AM, Evelyn Namara <evelyngeek at gmail.com> wrote:

> Andrew,
>
> It is not guaranteed that if Farmer 3 gets all the fuel he needs he will
> then supply to all customers of 3, 2, 1. He may have his hidden agendas and
> supply his own customers and the rest of the customers will not be fed well.
>
> Every farmer knows how they deal with their customers, you can not come in
> as farmer 3 and know all the needs of my customers.
>
> IPV4 will NOT rot (In summary)
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 10:37 AM, Andrew Alston <
> Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com> wrote:
>
>> The IPv4 may not rot, but the customers at the market will still be going
>> hungry because we’re trying to be fair to the farmers – and people will
>> still starve.
>>
>>
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *Badru Ntege <badru.ntege at nftconsult.com>
>> *Date: *Thursday, 16 June 2016 at 10:30 AM
>> *To: *Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com>, Noah <
>> noah at neo.co.tz>, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com>
>>
>> *Cc: *rpd List <rpd at afrinic.net>
>> *Subject: *Re: [rpd] Statistics on IPV4 allocation in Africa as of 2016
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>  :-) I like the introduction of analogys to the thread.
>>
>>
>>
>> Difference here is that the v4 will not rot and that those who have and
>> want more should be encouraged to only get V6 if they want additional
>> resources.
>>
>>
>>
>> I think this would offer a win-win outcome for all those in the region.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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>> On 6/16/16, 10:20 AM, "Andrew Alston" <Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Let me put this another way.
>>
>>
>>
>> Lets say hypothetically we have 3 farmers, and they all have vegetables
>> to deliver to 3 different markets.  The people at the markets are hungry
>> and waiting for the vegetables.
>>
>>
>>
>> There is fuel, and hypothetically, it could get all 3 farmers trucks to
>> the market, but only one trip each.
>>
>>
>>
>> Farmer 1 has a truck – except it has no tyres
>>
>> Farmer 2 has a truck  - except its battery is dead
>>
>> Farmer 3 has a working truck.
>>
>>
>>
>> It’s going to take a month before Farmer 1 and Farmer 2 have their trucks
>> repaired, and the vegetables only last a week before they go bad.
>>
>>
>>
>> Do we, a.) Say that in the interest of fairness to the farmers, we let
>> Farmer 3 make 1 trip, and then for the next 3 weeks, Farmer 1, 2 and 3 have
>> all their vegetables go bad while the people at the markets all starve or
>> b.) Do we say, we have one working truck, that can deliver to the markets,
>> he is in a position to feed the people at that market, so, let him have the
>> fuel he needs to do that, so at least some people get fed, even if Farmer 1
>> and 2 are disadvantaged?
>>
>>
>>
>> In my view, it’s a clear cut thing, Farmer 1 gets the fuel, because not
>> giving it to him hurts the people far more than giving it to him and
>> letting him deliver every vegetable he can.
>>
>>
>>
>> Let those who can use it have it, so long as its used for the advantage
>> of the African community – do not artificially constrain things and hurt
>> everyone just to try and be “fair”
>>
>>
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *Noah <noah at neo.co.tz>
>> *Date: *Thursday, 16 June 2016 at 8:36 AM
>> *To: *Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com>
>> *Cc: *rpd List <rpd at afrinic.net>
>> *Subject: *Re: [rpd] Statistics on IPV4 allocation in Africa as of 2016
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 16 Jun 2016 03:51, "Owen DeLong" <owen at delong.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >> On Jun 15, 2016, at 12:33 , Noah <noah at neo.co.tz> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 15 Jun 2016 22:03, "Owen DeLong" <owen at delong.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Instead, the best thing is for all of us to recognize that IPv4 has
>> become unsustainable and stop depending on its continued availability.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> We can similarly recognise that Crude Oil fossils and their byproducts
>> Diesel and Petrol [IPv4] are unsustainable a d stop depending on their
>> continued availability.
>> >>
>> >> We should all go for Solar Energy [IPv6] after all the Sun is so
>> abundant in supply and everyone will have unlimited energy through solar.
>> >
>> >
>> > Agreed… I have 31 panels on my roof generating approximately 108% of my
>> total electrical needs and feeding the excess back to the power utility in
>> my area. (I use about 1.2kw average consumption and my solar system
>> generates about 6.5kW peak output about 5-6 hours per day during summer).
>> >
>> > How about you?
>> >
>>
>> Needless to say, am sure you got my point.  :-)
>>
>> > Owen
>> >
>>
>> Noah
>>
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