[rpd] Statistics on IPV4 allocation in Africa as of 2016

[Arnaud AMELINA]

Tu as tout à fait raison Christian.  Ça suffit comme ça.  On a assez de ces
combats sur qui aura la meilleure histoire convainquante, entre fermier,
suivi...  La majorité de la communauté souhaite allez à son rythme.  Je dis
bien la majorité de la communauté souhaite aller à son rythme.  Donc
acceptons de gérer de façon responsable cette ressource en raréfaction. Que
ceux qui ont les moyens partent sur V6 et les autres feront de leur mieux
pour y aller.  Mais non pas forcer la main aux gens pour continuer à
cultiver l'apartheid. Parce que les uns n'ont pas pour le moment les moyens
de prendre ces ressources les autres qui en ont vont s'en accaparer pour
soit disant les forcer à aller à V6.  Si c'est si important pourquoi ils ne
rendent pas les ressources v4 (de toutes les ce ne sont pas leurs
propriétés ces ressources là mais celle d'Afrinic) et utiliser v6. De
toutes les façons v4 va finir. Vous vous en avez eu assez maintenant
laissez les autres qui sont en retard d'en avoir aussi c'est ça qu'on
appelle équitabilité si vus ne le savez. Comme Christian l'a dit si on
avait fait le principe de FIFO Afrinic n'aurait même pas ce /8 objet de
toutes cette discussion stérile.  Et mercantile.

Cordialement

Arnaud
The argument of "killing IPV4 for the promotion of IPV6" could be consider
as Propaganda statement. We all acknowledge that IPV6 is the future and we
do also  encourage our community to do so.

Supporting the theory of FIFO is not FAIR and not equitable knowing the
challenge the continent is facing. Please let us move on our own pace.
Let imagine if FIFO was implemented at  ICANN level for the distribution of
last /8? AfriNIC would have not obtained the last 102/8.

The deployment of V6  worldwide is still challenging not only in Africa as
you can see in this statitictics from AKAMAI
https://www.akamai.com/us/en/our-thinking/state-of-the-internet-report/state-of-the-internet-ipv6-adoption-visualization.jsp
, google  http://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html and Ripe
https://www.ripe.net/publications/ipv6-info-centre/statistics-and-tools.

Therefore the argument of accelerated depletion of V4 will enhance the
deployment of V6 is a myth.

Regards,
Bope



On 16 June 2016 at 15:30, Badru Ntege <badru.ntege at nftconsult.com> wrote:

>
>  :-) I like the introduction of analogys to the thread.
>
> Difference here is that the v4 will not rot and that those who have and
> want more should be encouraged to only get V6 if they want additional
> resources.
>
> I think this would offer a win-win outcome for all those in the region.
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> On 6/16/16, 10:20 AM, "Andrew Alston" <Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com>
> wrote:
>
> Let me put this another way.
>
>
>
> Lets say hypothetically we have 3 farmers, and they all have vegetables to
> deliver to 3 different markets.  The people at the markets are hungry and
> waiting for the vegetables.
>
>
>
> There is fuel, and hypothetically, it could get all 3 farmers trucks to
> the market, but only one trip each.
>
>
>
> Farmer 1 has a truck – except it has no tyres
>
> Farmer 2 has a truck  - except its battery is dead
>
> Farmer 3 has a working truck.
>
>
>
> It’s going to take a month before Farmer 1 and Farmer 2 have their trucks
> repaired, and the vegetables only last a week before they go bad.
>
>
>
> Do we, a.) Say that in the interest of fairness to the farmers, we let
> Farmer 3 make 1 trip, and then for the next 3 weeks, Farmer 1, 2 and 3 have
> all their vegetables go bad while the people at the markets all starve or
> b.) Do we say, we have one working truck, that can deliver to the markets,
> he is in a position to feed the people at that market, so, let him have the
> fuel he needs to do that, so at least some people get fed, even if Farmer 1
> and 2 are disadvantaged?
>
>
>
> In my view, it’s a clear cut thing, Farmer 1 gets the fuel, because not
> giving it to him hurts the people far more than giving it to him and
> letting him deliver every vegetable he can.
>
>
>
> Let those who can use it have it, so long as its used for the advantage of
> the African community – do not artificially constrain things and hurt
> everyone just to try and be “fair”
>
>
>
> Andrew
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *Noah <noah at neo.co.tz>
> *Date: *Thursday, 16 June 2016 at 8:36 AM
> *To: *Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com>
> *Cc: *rpd List <rpd at afrinic.net>
> *Subject: *Re: [rpd] Statistics on IPV4 allocation in Africa as of 2016
>
>
>
>
> On 16 Jun 2016 03:51, "Owen DeLong" <owen at delong.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> On Jun 15, 2016, at 12:33 , Noah <noah at neo.co.tz> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On 15 Jun 2016 22:03, "Owen DeLong" <owen at delong.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Instead, the best thing is for all of us to recognize that IPv4 has
> become unsustainable and stop depending on its continued availability.
> >> >
> >>
> >> We can similarly recognise that Crude Oil fossils and their byproducts
> Diesel and Petrol [IPv4] are unsustainable a d stop depending on their
> continued availability.
> >>
> >> We should all go for Solar Energy [IPv6] after all the Sun is so
> abundant in supply and everyone will have unlimited energy through solar.
> >
> >
> > Agreed… I have 31 panels on my roof generating approximately 108% of my
> total electrical needs and feeding the excess back to the power utility in
> my area. (I use about 1.2kw average consumption and my solar system
> generates about 6.5kW peak output about 5-6 hours per day during summer).
> >
> > How about you?
> >
>
> Needless to say, am sure you got my point.  :-)
>
> > Owen
> >
>
> Noah
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