[rpd] New Proposal - "Internet Number Resources Audit by AFRINIC (AFPUB-2016-GEN-001-DRAFT01)"

[McTim]

Hi Oma,

On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 1:04 AM, Omo Oaiya <Omo.Oaiya at wacren.net> wrote:
>
> On 22 May 2016 at 21:32, Nishal Goburdhan <nishal at controlfreak.co.za> wrote:
>>
>> i support the intent of the policy :-)  but then, i think that most
>> rational persons would.


I certainly support audit and revocation powers.  I think we already
have that in the toolkit.


>
>
>
> indeed ....especially now the authors and Owen have shown that most rational
> people do support such policies globally.
>
>
>>
>> but i think that the important part of this is being done now by staff,
>> and, just probably not being communicated.  i worry that the burden that
>> this creates will end up simply costing potential resource members even
>> more.  and diverting afrinic’s meagre resources from matters that should be
>> addressed, as part of this region’s *future*.
>
>
>
> Your claims about the cost and overheads on AFRINIC staff made me take a
> closer look. The claims are baseless and cloud objective discussion of the
> policy.  Anyone who thinks there will be any significant change in work done
> in Mauritius is wrong.

Well, I have been a RIR hostmaster/resource analyst and I can tell you
that audits
take very significant amounts of person hours (per audit).


Perhaps staff could give us an estimate of the number of new FTE staff
they would need to hire (if any) to carry out such a policy?


>
> In 3.3a, b and c, the authors propose classes of audit to make it efficient
> and cost-effective. On analysis, their proposal works.
>
> a - Random - from Medium and Above, IPv6-only Large, EU-AS
>
> b - Selected - This covers what AFRINIC currently does through initial
> allocation reviews, additional allocations reviews and any other internal
> reviews
>
> c - Reported - Allows complaints about resource usage to be investigated -
> this could come from any member of the community, law enforcement,
> governments, CSIRTs,  peers, etc.  Also allows members to request self-audit
> .
>
> As at 24/05  (a) constituted less than 9% of the total membership - 117 out
> of a total 1703 including legacy.
>
> LIR Medium and above : 112
> End-users Medium and above: 5
> IPv6-only Large: 0
> EU-AS: 0
>
> In terms of actual mechanism, a complaint registration form that collects
> enough information for an investigation is easy enough to provide.
>>
>>
>> however, i do not support this policy.
>
>
> What do you and the others with similar claims say now your assumptions have
> been proven wrong?

I say the same thing I said before.  the 'NIC already has the power to
audit and revoke resources.

I don't see what this proposal gives them that they don't already have.

Are we trying to prolong the lifespan of IPv4 with this proposal, or
just ensuring fair and equitable distribution?


-- 
Cheers,

McTim
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