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[rpd] Some thoughts, and some actions required

Andrew Alston Andrew.Alston at
Fri Feb 5 12:28:55 UTC 2016


Did you ever see the migration presentation on the IPv6 rollout at UFS, a university that has probably the biggest v6 rollout on the continent other than Rhodes university (that I know of)

Without IPv4 space from Afrinic to fix that network first, that v6 deployment would have been impossible. That's a fact.

Move to v6 are easy words, but sometimes doing that in the current environment simply isn't as easy as all that and requires v4 resources first to restructure in a way that supports required dual stacking.

Would suggest you look up that presentation, it contains some interesting details

But irrespective of that, let us not lose focus by engaging in the debate on a policy which is withdrawn and which it is to late to implement anyway, let us rather focus where we should, on getting a sane transfer policy


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On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 4:14 AM -0800, "Ademola Osindero" <ademola at<mailto:ademola at>> wrote:

Oh please, don’t start the educational policy. Higher Institutions should be moving forward by promoting IPv6 usage within campuses rather than attempting to stay in the relics of IPv4.

That will be innovation in Africa.

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On 5 Feb 2016, at 06:32, Sunday Folayan <sfolayan at<mailto:sfolayan at>> wrote:

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Boubakar and Omo,

Just in case you are not subscribed,

Would you be kind to contribute and enrich the debate?



On 04/02/2016 07:50, Mukom Akong T. wrote:
> On 4 February 2016 at 02:04, Mwendwa Kivuva <Kivuva at<mailto:Kivuva at> <mailto:Kivuva at><mailto:Kivuva at>> wrote:
>     On 03/02/2016, Owen DeLong <owen at<mailto:owen at> <mailto:owen at><mailto:owen at>> wrote:
>     >
>     > While I did not support the educational policy because I did not believe it
>     > appropriate to give special privileges to educational institutions to the
>     > detriment of other classes of community members, I would support a policy
>     > that generally allowed for a reasonable estimation of concurrent wifi users
>     > based on quantified total user base.
>     >
>     We are a unique market and probably it would have made sense to pass
>     the policy give preference to Universities,...
> 'Unique' in what way? Uniqueness (even when undefined) should not surpass a policy requirement: Needs-based assignment.
> There were few network engineers who run university networks stood up to support the proposal - that might have been indicative of something.
> Personally, I thought the ratio of 1:5 was excessive GIVEN the paucity of space available. In the world of abundance that is IPv6 --- I don't care what ratio is used.
> If we really wanted to get to something sensible, I'd measure concurrent users over say 1 month and a reasonable value would be the mean of concurrent users + 3 standard deviations. (assuming statistical normality)
>     because as it stands, many
>     Universities in the continent will remain with NAT post v4 exhaustion.
> Is there a list of universities in Africa with those that have their own space or not? Would anyone from AFREN be able to provide such information?
>     Since Universities are not in the business of always scaling and
>     getting to new territories as LIRs are, they are just comfortable with
>     NAT, to the detriment of growth of proper IP networks.
> I'd argue the reverse: Universities as citadels of knowledge are in a position to try out lots more new technologies before ISPs.
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