[rpd] Fwd: update on policy Afrinic service Guide Lines policy proposal

Fri Nov 21 15:22:46 UTC 2014

so why does the name "karmann olumomo" sound like a cover identity ...

could it be a community member who is not bold to come out to express his
opinions with his real identity? why would such a person want to keep the
board away from resource allocation discussions?

one or two people come into mind though ...

IMHO having the board to be active in such discussions is better than
having "Afrinic Management" which currently is made up of one or two people
decide to release huge resources

cheers

On 21 November 2014 18:16, Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com>
wrote:

>  Hi Karmann,
>
>  (Again speaking from a personal perspective and not as a member of the
> board)
>
>  I’d argue that if you wanted to bar the board from any particular thing,
> which you would be free to do, such restrictions on the actions of the
> board are not in the ambit of the PdP.  The mandate of the board (or the
> revocation of the mandate of the board) needs to be done through a change
> in the bylaws.
>
>  The procedures to change the bylaws are clearly spelled out in the
> bylaws themselves as well.  Write a resolution, table it for
> discussion/voting at an AGMM within the specified time frames, and then get
> it passed by a 75 percent majority of voting members.
>
>  Keep in mind, board authority and the authority of various others
> (including the CoE for example), as well as their mandates and their
> constituency is specifically laid out in the bylaws, and it is only through
> a change in the bylaws that this can be done.  I do not think the PdP (or
> even the board themselves for that matter) can change those bylaws outside
> of that process without contravening the current bylaws and the various
> legal frameworks in place.
>
>  I refer you to section 7.6.vi of the bylaws which reads:
> (vi) consider and approve by Special Resolution, if appropriate, proposals
> for the revocation, amendment or replacement of this Constitution;
>
>  Where Special resolution is defined as
>
>  A resolution approved by a majority of 75 per cent of the votes of those
> members entitled to vote and voting on the question.
>
>  With regards to who can vote in terms of such a modification, see
> section 12.11.
>
>  Section 12.14 spells out how to go about tabling a special resolution.
>
>  Thanks
>
>  *Andrew Alston*
> Group Head of IP Strategy
>
>   Sameer business Park, Block A, Mombasa Road. Nairobi, Kenya
>
> *T:* +254 205000000 -  *M*: +254 733 2222 04 - *E:*
> andrew.alston at liquidtelecom.com
>
>   From: Karmann Olumomo <karmann.olumomo at gmail.com>
> Date: Friday, November 21, 2014 at 10:43 AM
> To: Andrew Alston <andrew.alston at liquidtelecom.com>
> Cc: "rpd at afrinic.net" <rpd at afrinic.net>
> Subject: Re: [rpd] Fwd: update on policy Afrinic service Guide Lines
> policy proposal
>
>   Hi Andrew:
>
>  I am saying "resource allocation process", not policy development process.
>
>  resource allocation process is an internal process of Afrinic hostmaster
> team.
>
> On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Andrew Alston <
> Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com> wrote:
>
>>   Hi Karmann,
>>
>>  (Speaking personally and not with my board hat on).
>>
>>  I strongly object to the clause that says board members can have no
>> involvement in the policy development process.
>>
>>  Keep in mind, every board member is elected from within the community.
>> That means that many board members also have their own job functions which
>> relate to IP addressing within their respective organisations.  I agree
>> that a board member who is also involved in the PdP should NOT necessarily
>> be doing it with their board hat on, but you cannot exclude the individuals
>> themselves from the process.  To do so would be to ensure that any person
>> who is active in policy can never run for board, else they risk being
>> alienated from the policy process.  This would damage not only the PdP but
>> also the potential to get quality board members who have a good
>> understanding of policy and the process by which it is formulated.
>>
>>  Hence, I will not support any policy that states that.
>>
>>  *Andrew Alston*
>> Group Head of IP Strategy
>>
>>   Sameer business Park, Block A, Mombasa Road. Nairobi, Kenya
>>
>> *T:* +254 205000000 -  *M*: +254 733 2222 04 - *E:*
>> andrew.alston at liquidtelecom.com
>>
>>   From: Karmann Olumomo <karmann.olumomo at gmail.com>
>> Date: Friday, November 21, 2014 at 8:10 AM
>> To: "rpd at afrinic.net" <rpd at afrinic.net>
>> Subject: [rpd] Fwd: update on policy Afrinic service Guide Lines policy
>> proposal
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>   HI
>>
>>  After taking the community feed back, I'd like to update my proposal to
>> the following:
>>
>> 1) Summary of the Problem Being Addressed by this Policy Proposal Some
>> member are experiencing extreme long wait for their additional allocation
>> request to get passed, some members are experiencing none technical
>> information requested from Afrinic(customer data, marketing channel etc),
>> in order to improve overall service quality of Afrinic, here is the policy.
>> 2) Summary of How this Proposal Addresses the Problem To improve overall
>> service quality and transparency of Afrinic’s number resource services by
>> documenting roles and responsibilities of AFRINIC.  3) Proposal
>>
>> 1.Afrinic should make decision on subsequent allocation requests based on
>> Afrinic   policy, and conclude a request no longer than the 20% of the
>> total period AFRNIC approves the resources for. (E.g. If Afrinic is issuing
>> resources to its member to meet its 12 months needs, the longest waiting
>> time for Afrinic allocation process should not be longer than 20%*12month,
>> to cope with 80% utilization requirement for additional allocation). If
>> Afrinic was not able to make decision on a certain request within this
>> period, for each additional month beyond this period, the requesting member
>> should receive percentage of the requested period of the total request
>> until such decision has been made, in order to protect member from smooth
>> running of its business.
>>
>>   2.Afrinic should publish standardized base information request for
>> each typical type of resource allocation.
>>
>>
>> 3.Afrinic should not store, request any marketing or business related
>> none-technical information from its member, for example, customer data,
>> marketing channel, and marketing budget.
>>
>>
>> 4.Afrinic allocations should be solely made based on current policy, no
>> other factor other than policy should infer with afrinic’s decision on
>> processing allocation requests.
>>
>>
>> 5.Afrinic board should never being involved in any form of resource
>> allocation process.
>>
>>
>> 6.For the interest of overall policy development process, other RIR staff
>> as well as it's governing body personnel(advisor or board member, for
>> example) should not be involve in Afrinic policy development process.
>>
>>
>> 7.Afrinic policy working group chair election should be conducted
>> independent from Afrinic board nomination committee, candidates should be
>> free of any requirement.
>>
>>
>>  The main updated point is point 5:
>>
>> 5.Afrinic board should never being involved in any form of resource
>> allocation process.
>>
>>  Thanks very much and please update the proposal accordingly.
>>
>>
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