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[rpd] A typical conversation with a service provider on v6

Mark Elkins mje at
Mon Jun 16 12:44:51 UTC 2014

From a hosting perspective, on a suggestion from Adiel, I added the IPv6
logo to the front end of a number of my systems: Virtual Web and DNS system where any third party can set up secondary DNS on my
systems (for a fee) our Machine hosting portal.

It honestly never occurred to me to add the IPv6 Logo.... until Adiel
suggested to do so. IPv6 was, after a year or two, no longer a

On Mon, 2014-06-16 at 11:46 +0300, Adam Nelson wrote:
> Mark,
> There are three uplinks in our building over which about 6 ISPs
> operate.  I get asked all the time which ones are 'best' and which one
> somebody should use.  I'd like to be able to make IPv6 part of that
> recommendation but I can't because there's no resource to tell me.
> What you're saying is 'right', but we can also push the needle by at
> least getting the data public.  I'd be happy to refer customers to
> IPv6 capable stacks even if they don't use IPv6 since the running of a
> dual stack is also suggestive of the overall quality of the ISP.
> -Adam
> --
> Kili - Cloud for Africa:
> Musings:
> More Musings:
> About Adam:
> On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Mark Tinka <mark.tinka at>
> wrote:
>         On Monday, June 16, 2014 09:14:09 AM Seun Ojedeji wrote:
>         > Yeah "to some extent" it is; because i am just that rare
>         > customer that also wants a 128bits even though
>         > everything works fine on 32. I doubt end customers will
>         > move ISPs as much especially if everything works fine on
>         > v4. I think policy and its implementation at regulator's
>         > level could expedite some of v6 visibility.
>         Customers will go to where they can get service.
>         If a customer is on IPv4 today, and it works, short of any
>         other issues, they won't be looking to move.
>         If an Internet resource is only on IPv6, and the customer's
>         existing ISP only supports IPv4, the customer will
>         experience connectivity issues and will, invariably, start
>         shopping around unless their existing provider turns up
>         IPv6.
>         If new Internet users are signing up to an ISP that is
>         operating in an era where there is no longer any IPv4, the
>         customer still doesn't care what protocol his services are
>         running over provided there is end-to-end connectivity.
>         Again, the customer's ISP (or their competition), will need
>         to provide a solution to the customer that satisfies their
>         connectivity needs (be they native to IPv6 resources, or
>         translated to IPv4-only resources).
>         Ultimately, the customer will go to where they can get
>         service. That's the bottom line.
>         Mark.
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Mark James ELKINS  -  Posix Systems - (South) Africa
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