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[rpd] A typical conversation with a service provider on v6

Adam Nelson adam at
Mon Jun 16 08:46:14 UTC 2014


There are three uplinks in our building over which about 6 ISPs operate.  I
get asked all the time which ones are 'best' and which one somebody should
use.  I'd like to be able to make IPv6 part of that recommendation but I
can't because there's no resource to tell me.

What you're saying is 'right', but we can also push the needle by at least
getting the data public.  I'd be happy to refer customers to IPv6 capable
stacks even if they don't use IPv6 since the running of a dual stack is
also suggestive of the overall quality of the ISP.


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On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Mark Tinka <mark.tinka at> wrote:

> On Monday, June 16, 2014 09:14:09 AM Seun Ojedeji wrote:
> > Yeah "to some extent" it is; because i am just that rare
> > customer that also wants a 128bits even though
> > everything works fine on 32. I doubt end customers will
> > move ISPs as much especially if everything works fine on
> > v4. I think policy and its implementation at regulator's
> > level could expedite some of v6 visibility.
> Customers will go to where they can get service.
> If a customer is on IPv4 today, and it works, short of any
> other issues, they won't be looking to move.
> If an Internet resource is only on IPv6, and the customer's
> existing ISP only supports IPv4, the customer will
> experience connectivity issues and will, invariably, start
> shopping around unless their existing provider turns up
> IPv6.
> If new Internet users are signing up to an ISP that is
> operating in an era where there is no longer any IPv4, the
> customer still doesn't care what protocol his services are
> running over provided there is end-to-end connectivity.
> Again, the customer's ISP (or their competition), will need
> to provide a solution to the customer that satisfies their
> connectivity needs (be they native to IPv6 resources, or
> translated to IPv4-only resources).
> Ultimately, the customer will go to where they can get
> service. That's the bottom line.
> Mark.
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