[rpd] LACNIC reaches final /10 of IPv4 space

[Seun Ojedeji]

On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Noah Maina <mainanoa at gmail.com> wrote:

> I still stick to my argument that the phrase "IPv6 Content "is misleading
> IMHO, .... In the v4 world, we never had such language as IPv4 content, we
> just knew we needed to access our applications and content across the
> network...
>

The point is if you discontinue the phrase, what other marketing phrase
have you got as a replacement

<snip>
> I say, they should enable the protocol and let version 6 flow...
>

And what is making the ISPs not enable the protocol? largely related to cost

Cheers!

>
> On 12 June 2014 14:03, John Hay <jhay at meraka.org.za> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 12:58:03PM +0300, Noah Maina wrote:
>> > "IPv6 Content" is a mis-leading phrase and we as netizens should refrain
>> > from using it..
>> >
>> > The servers have Ethernet ports. The OS's that run on them support both
>> v4
>> > and v6 protocols. The applications aka Content seats at layer above 2
>> and
>> > 3.... Content providers choose to only enable a single protocol across
>> the
>> > wire, IPv4 and ignore the other sweet one IPv6.
>> >
>> > So in a nutshell, if both protocols could be preconfigure on the gate
>> go,
>> > then same content would be accessible via both protocols.
>> >
>> > So please, lets drop this phrase, "There is no IPv6 Content"
>>
>> Well I think it comes from this whole chicken and egg issue. Content guys
>> said, there is no user requirement for IPv6, and the users (and their
>> ISPs)
>> said, the content is not available via IPv6... And for a long time both
>> sides did nothing. And even now a lot of them try to find reasons to keep
>> doing nothing.
>>
>> So if you do not like "IPv6 Content", what should we use? "Content is
>> available via IPv6 too"? And later when IPv6 only sites become online,
>> "IPv6 only content"?
>>
>> I think some form of "IPv6 Content" is usefull because you can take that
>> to bean counters as motivation to roll IPv6 out in your network.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> John
>>
>> >
>> > Noah
>> >
>> >
>> > On 12 June 2014 12:24, Guy Antony Halse <G.halse at ru.ac.za> wrote:
>> >
>> > > On Wed 2014-06-11 (19:47), John Hay wrote:
>> > > > More than a third of our (Meraka) internet traffic is already IPv6.
>> > >
>> > > Our stats are roughly similar -- for anyone who still believes that
>> there
>> > > isn't any IPv6 content out there, http://imgur.com/a/PLQje shows the
>> > > respective graphs from one of our edge routers a rew minutes ago.
>>  And we
>> > > don't dual stack our residences yet...
>> > >
>> > > More importantly, at least in South Africa, the IPv6 content is here
>> too:
>> > >
>> > >  guy at walrus:~$ traceroute6 www.google.co.za
>> > >  traceroute6 to www.google.co.za (2c0f:fb50:4002:800::101f) from
>> > > 2001:4200:1010:1058:210:18ff:fe2d:87f9, 64 hops max, 12 byte packets
>> > >   1  struben.gw.ru.ac.za  1.014 ms  0.977 ms  0.819 ms
>> > >   2  strubencore-maincampus-0.net.ru.ac.za  0.660 ms  0.661 ms
>>  0.664 ms
>> > >   3  strubenedge-strubencore.net.ru.ac.za  0.832 ms  0.847 ms  0.822
>> ms
>> > >   4  tenet-strubenedge.net.ru.ac.za  1.290 ms  1.292 ms  1.290 ms
>> > >  [...]
>> > >  15  2001:4860:0:1::623  40.944 ms  40.949 ms  40.925 ms
>> > >  16  2c0f:fb50:4002:800::17  40.377 ms
>> > >
>> > > - Guy
>> > > --
>> > > Manager: Systems, I&TS Division, Rhodes University, Grahamstown, South
>> > > Africa
>> > > Email: G.Halse at ru.ac.za    Web: http://mombe.org/    IRC:
>> > > rm-rf at irc.atrum.org
>> > > *** ANSI Standard Disclaimer ***
>> > >  J.A.P.H
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>> --
>> John Hay -- jhay at meraka.csir.co.za / jhay at meraka.org.za
>>
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