[rpd] IPv4 policy on where space is used.

[Seun Ojedeji]

sent from Google nexus 4
kindly excuse brevity and typos.
On 16 May 2014 16:56, "Mark Elkins" <mje at posix.co.za> wrote:
>
> I believe this is one of the pains that AFRINIC Hostmasters are trying
> to deal with at the moment.
>
Yeah and they can only try within the limits of the policy.

>
So what if we said that at least 50% of all
> number resources had to be for equipment in Africa?
>
Hmmm... that's could be an option. Perhaps also be helpful to look at
reviewing the requirements that makes an organisation African enough to be
consider for resource.

> Should be enough for a truly African ISP to use out of the area.
>
Yeah 50% is a fair deal, although the other puzzle could be how to verify
this after resource assignment is done ;) hence the reason why further
vetting of organisation establishment status and purpose may be needed.

> I'm looking at somehow disallowing an "African" entity from using all
> the numbering resources out side of the Afrinic Region....
>
Yeah a possibility that I just alluded to above. So the purpose of that
African company should be checked. Things like:

- What type of service do they provide and are they really services that
utilises IP resource on physical infrastructures (such check more
applicable to those applying as cloud services organization)
- Who are their existing clients
-  History of establishment
-  Does employed staff and organisation base reflect as being continental.
- Possibly a biannual check of resource usage statistics (if it's not a
tall order)

Those tall checks above may not prevent IP export, but it could ensure some
functional provider establishment in Africa.

Hopefully we can see some policies proposals in that direction.

Cheers!
>
>
> >
> > Cheers!
> > > Regards
> > > Steve
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 16 May 2014 15:57, Saul <saul at enetworks.co.za> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Personally I am in favour of keeping our resources regional. I
> > think that we
> > >> have all been offered large sums of money to get space and then
> > sell it off
> > >> the continent.
> > >>
> > >> But then its IP... does it really matter?
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: rpd-bounces at afrinic.net [mailto:rpd-bounces at afrinic.net] On
> > Behalf Of
> > >> Mark Elkins
> > >> Sent: 15 May 2014 09:09 PM
> > >> To: rpd at afrinic.net
> > >> Subject: [rpd] IPv4 policy on where space is used.
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, 2014-05-15 at 21:46 +0400, Kofi ansa akufo wrote:
> > >> >  ....the resource was going out of the region....
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> As far as I am aware, the current requirement for getting address
> > space is
> > >> that you are a company properly established (all legal - as such)
> > in Africa.
> > >> There is currently no policy (except with the last /8) that states
> > the
> > >> resources you get have to be used in Africa....
> > >>
> > >> This might be good.... (get rid of all the IPv4, start using IPv6)
> > or Bad...
> > >> (we are doing *what* with our resources???)
> > >>
> > >> Maybe some policy needs to be designed - how do people feel...
> > >>
> > >> --
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