[rpd] IPv4 policy on where space is used.

[Kofi ansa akufo]

Hello All

What we see now is new business models springing up such Data Centers with
DR sites outside the continent. With services such as IaaS, PaaS, SaaS it
becomes murky where IPs are used.

Even worse is where to classify such businesses as LIR or End User as
presented to the community in Lusaka.

Should a business offering Software as a Service (SaaS) have all IPs
assigned to their virtual platform be classified as End User IPs and pay
less fees according to the fees schedule?

Obviously the policies have to be reviewed.

On May 16, 2014 7:56 PM, "Mark Elkins" <mje at posix.co.za> wrote:
>
> On Fri, 2014-05-16 at 16:26 +0100, Seun Ojedeji wrote:
> > sent from Google nexus 4
> > kindly excuse brevity and typos.
> > On 16 May 2014 16:16, "Stephen Wilcox" <steve.wilcox at ixreach.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Saul,
> > >  so a successful African company that wishes to expand outside
> > Africa is forced to go to APNIC, RIPE, etc who are unable to assign
> > space as they have ran out. Isn't this an issue with regionalising
> > resources for global business?
> > >
> > Sure it's difficult to make such restriction and it's really not a
> > path that will yield much success. However I believe it's possible to
> > ensure those organisation are indeed well grounded African
> > organisation before handing resources to them.
>
> I believe this is one of the pains that AFRINIC Hostmasters are trying
> to deal with at the moment. So what if we said that at least 50% of all
> number resources had to be for equipment in Africa?
>
> Should be enough for a truly African ISP to use out of the area.
>
> I'm looking at somehow disallowing an "African" entity from using all
> the numbering resources out side of the Afrinic Region....
>
>
>
> >
> > Cheers!
> > > Regards
> > > Steve
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 16 May 2014 15:57, Saul <saul at enetworks.co.za> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Personally I am in favour of keeping our resources regional. I
> > think that we
> > >> have all been offered large sums of money to get space and then
> > sell it off
> > >> the continent.
> > >>
> > >> But then its IP... does it really matter?
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: rpd-bounces at afrinic.net [mailto:rpd-bounces at afrinic.net] On
> > Behalf Of
> > >> Mark Elkins
> > >> Sent: 15 May 2014 09:09 PM
> > >> To: rpd at afrinic.net
> > >> Subject: [rpd] IPv4 policy on where space is used.
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, 2014-05-15 at 21:46 +0400, Kofi ansa akufo wrote:
> > >> >  ....the resource was going out of the region....
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> As far as I am aware, the current requirement for getting address
> > space is
> > >> that you are a company properly established (all legal - as such)
> > in Africa.
> > >> There is currently no policy (except with the last /8) that states
> > the
> > >> resources you get have to be used in Africa....
> > >>
> > >> This might be good.... (get rid of all the IPv4, start using IPv6)
> > or Bad...
> > >> (we are doing *what* with our resources???)
> > >>
> > >> Maybe some policy needs to be designed - how do people feel...
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Mark James ELKINS  -  Posix Systems - (South) Africa
> > >> mje at posix.co.za       Tel: +27.128070590  Cell: +27.826010496
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