[AFRINIC-rpd] RE: IPv4 Address Allocation and Assignment proposal

[Frank Habicht]

Hi all,

In my opinion it is completely unreasonable for AfriNIC to ask for access
to members' (Operators') production equipment.

In my opinion AfriNIC should only be asking for documentation that shows
the need. And I agree financial information can be redacted from
documentation submitted. Technical, business and financial details should
be left to the Operators to decide upon.

Frank




On 9/10/2013 10:22 PM, ademola at ng.lopworks.com wrote:
> Dear,
> 
> The job of Afrinic should be completely Limited to assigning a reasonable
> block of IP Addresses. The continual attempts to engineer the IP Addresses
> or dictate how a network uses them internally should be left to the end user. 
> 
> Like Andrew has highlighted, the proposed section of the policy has just
> completely crossed the line. 
> 
> Regards,
> Ademola Osindero 
> 
> *From: *Andrew Alston
> *Sent: *Tuesday, September 10, 2013 7:50 PM
> *To: *Keshwarsingh Nadan; rpd at afrinic.net
> *Subject: *Re: [AFRINIC-rpd] RE: IPv4 Address Allocation and Assignment
> proposal
> 
> 
> I only want to really comment at this point on one section of thisŠ
> 
>> An RIR may also request remote access to the network in question but not
>>be limited to:
>>
>>- Colocation customer equipment (Hypervisors, Routers, Servers, Switches).
>>- Core routers.
>>- DHCP servers.
>>- Hypervisors.
>>
> 
> NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS
> 
> I am pretty sure if RIPE or ARIN demanded access to the confidential
> networks of any applicant they would be told to take a flying leap, and I
> would REALLY hope that the same would apply in Africa. It is *NOT* the
> job of an RIR to be the IP police, it is *NOT* the job of an RIR to have
> access to the internal workings of any ISP's network, it is *NOT* the job
> of an RIR to evaluate design, it is *NO BUSINESS* of the RIR to have
> access to the internal configurations of any of its members.
> 
> The RIR staff are NOT and are not MEANT to be network engineers, nor do I
> believe they have the skill or the training to adequately deal with such
> access. Furthermore, the confidentiality agreements in the MSA are in NO
> way sufficient to cover this. In addition, the security concerns and
> flaws this would raise are immense, you're gonna hand external access to a
> third party to the core routers of an major ISP from external addresses
> that may or may not be adequately protected themselves? Give me a break.
> 
> In addition to thisŠ you want members to grant the RIR access to their
> CUSTOMERS equipment? On what planet does an AfriNIC member have the right
> or the authority to grant AfriNIC access to third party equipment?
> 
> SorryŠ but let me forget diplomacy for a whileŠ what exactly have you been
> smoking?
> 
> Andrew
> 
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