[AFRINIC-rpd] PDP discussions

[Maye Diop]

0) - Just for clarification definitions may change some times but when it
comes to the terme of concensus which is the fundation of UN activities,
please be careful about your statement and coutries you are naming. Having
spent more then 10 years in the government as manager, I learned a bit
about concensus and diplomacy.
1) -The financial aspect of this policy cannot be cancel because these
addresses are the source of revenue for afrinic's activities.
2) -Why not putting in place this policy for IPv6 where we can have 1:10
ratio for every single student including those who are at not at the
universites. In my opinion, this will be the best way to promote v6
transition at national and continental level. And it's free now.
3) I would like to understand what is the true or hidden reason of this
policy. You can send it privately :).
Best Regards,


2013/6/25 Andrew Alston <alston.networks at gmail.com>

> Actually Owen,
>
> I disagree, the policy in no way asks for discount, the policy says that a
> discount that is current applies.  If no such discount is current as per
> the board decisions on such, it will not apply.  This was made clear in the
> meeting when you were not present.
>
> At the moment at board discretion, a 50% discount applies to academia, the
> policy merely maintains that discount.  If that discount were to be
> revoked, there would be no discount for that clause in the policy to apply
> to and no discount would be applied.
>
> We openly said in the presentation about this policy at the meeting that
> we were not interested in dealing with the financial aspects since those
> are not the remit of the PDP, but rather the remit of the board. And we
> stated this extremely clearly.
>
> Andrew
>
>
> From: Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com>
> Date: Tuesday 25 June 2013 10:18 PM
> To: Andrew Alston <alston.networks at gmail.com>
> Cc: Maye Diop <mayediop at gmail.com>, rpd <rpd at afrinic.net>, Alan Barrett <
> apb at cequrux.com>
>
> Subject: Re: [AFRINIC-rpd] PDP discussions
>
>
> On Jun 24, 2013, at 03:08 , Andrew Alston <alston.networks at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Maye,
>
> I do not understand how you can claim this is depriving AfriNIC of its
> revenues.  Let us look at some hard facts.
>
> Firstly, annual fees and application fees will still apply to any
> applications made under this policy, the policy does not change the fee
> structure in any way shape or form.  Secondly, irrespective of if the space
> is used under this policy or by other organisations, the money is still
> coming in.  The current revenues generated by already existent applications
> will also keep flowing.
>
>
> You cannot have it both ways, Andrew. You can not argue on one hand that
> Academic institutions should receive a discount and special treatment that
> makes them end-users when they are conducting themselves in a manner that
> looks very much like an LIR and on the other had claim that doing so has no
> impact to revenues.
>
> I'm neutral as to the policy and I do not believe it will do significant
> fiscal damage to AfriNIC, but your argument above is an insult to the
> intellect of the reader.
>
> Owen
>
>


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Mme Ndéye Maimouna DIOP
Spécialiste ICT4D
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