<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>0) - Just for clarification definitions may change some times but when it comes to the terme of concensus which is the fundation of UN activities, please be careful about your statement and coutries you are naming. Having spent more then 10 years in the government as manager, I learned a bit about concensus and diplomacy.<br>
</div><div>1) -The financial aspect of this policy cannot be cancel because these addresses are the source of revenue for afrinic's activities.<br></div>2) -Why not putting in place this policy for IPv6 where we can have 1:10 ratio for every single student including those who are at not at the universites. In my opinion, this will be the best way to promote v6 transition at national and continental level. And it's free now.<br>
</div>3) I would like to understand what is the true or hidden reason of this policy. You can send it privately :).<br></div>Best Regards,<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2013/6/25 Andrew Alston <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:alston.networks@gmail.com" target="_blank">alston.networks@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="font-size:14px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;word-wrap:break-word"><div>Actually Owen, </div><div><br></div>
<div>I disagree, the policy in no way asks for discount, the policy says that a discount that is current applies. If no such discount is current as per the board decisions on such, it will not apply. This was made clear in the meeting when you were not present. </div>
<div><br></div><div>At the moment at board discretion, a 50% discount applies to academia, the policy merely maintains that discount. If that discount were to be revoked, there would be no discount for that clause in the policy to apply to and no discount would be applied. </div>
<div><br></div><div>We openly said in the presentation about this policy at the meeting that we were not interested in dealing with the financial aspects since those are not the remit of the PDP, but rather the remit of the board. And we stated this extremely clearly.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Andrew</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><span><div style="border-right:medium none;padding-right:0in;padding-left:0in;padding-top:3pt;text-align:left;font-size:11pt;border-bottom:medium none;font-family:Calibri;border-top:#b5c4df 1pt solid;padding-bottom:0in;border-left:medium none">
<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span> Owen DeLong <<a href="mailto:owen@delong.com" target="_blank">owen@delong.com</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span> Tuesday 25 June 2013 10:18 PM<br><span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span> Andrew Alston <<a href="mailto:alston.networks@gmail.com" target="_blank">alston.networks@gmail.com</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Cc: </span> Maye Diop <<a href="mailto:mayediop@gmail.com" target="_blank">mayediop@gmail.com</a>>, rpd <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a>>, Alan Barrett <<a href="mailto:apb@cequrux.com" target="_blank">apb@cequrux.com</a>><div class="im">
<br><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span> Re: [AFRINIC-rpd] PDP discussions<br></div></div><div><br></div><div><div class="h5"><div><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><br><div><div>On Jun 24, 2013, at 03:08 , Andrew Alston <<a href="mailto:alston.networks@gmail.com" target="_blank">alston.networks@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div>
<br><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;font-size:14px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><div>Hi Maye,</div><div><br></div><div>I do not understand how you can claim this is depriving AfriNIC of its revenues. Let us look at some hard facts.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Firstly, annual fees and application fees will still apply to any applications made under this policy, the policy does not change the fee structure in any way shape or form. Secondly, irrespective of if the space is used under this policy or by other organisations, the money is still coming in. The current revenues generated by already existent applications will also keep flowing.</div>
</div></blockquote><div><br></div>You cannot have it both ways, Andrew. You can not argue on one hand that Academic institutions should receive a discount and special treatment that makes them end-users when they are conducting themselves in a manner that looks very much like an LIR and on the other had claim that doing so has no impact to revenues.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I'm neutral as to the policy and I do not believe it will do significant fiscal damage to AfriNIC, but your argument above is an insult to the intellect of the reader.</div><div><br></div><div>Owen</div>
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</blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>---------------------<br>Mme Ndéye Maimouna DIOP<br>Spécialiste ICT4D<br>
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