[AFRINIC-rpd] Re: rpd Digest, Vol 78, Issue 8 on Head of IT at AFRINIC

Tue Mar 19 08:03:37 UTC 2013

Dear All,

Que celui qui n’a jamais péché lui jette le 1ere pierre! This famous
line says it all. Thanks Dorothy, Owen, McTim, Bill for your
support and willingness not to pillory someone at face value.

I would like here to reiterate management and staff’s unconditional
support to Neriah. To our knowledge, Neriah’s CV nor background never
contravened AFRINIC’s recruitment policy. Before joining AFRINIC he
lived and worked in Canada in two public and renowned organisations
which had no issues with Neriah’s records either. We hired Neriah Sossou
because he knows his job and has been very good at it at AFRINIC.

I would like for the record to notify the community that this is the
third time in 3 months that some people using either fake emails or
twitter accounts are going out of their way to paint AFRINIC staff in a
dark way. We take it seriously and do our internal due diligence.
We also look at it partly as a sign of people disgruntled by our staff
doing their job and doing it well. Any unhappy requester is welcome to
escalate their case and we will look at it: admin-escalate at afrinic.net

Regards,
Anne-Rachel

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>    1. AfriNIC employs a convicted criminal as Head of IT (deepak.mehta)
>    2. Re: AfriNIC employs a convicted criminal as Head of IT (JP)
>    3. Re: AfriNIC employs a convicted criminal as Head of IT
>       (Owen DeLong)
>    4. Re: AfriNIC employs a convicted criminal as Head of IT
>       (deepak.mehta)
>    5. AfriNIC employs a convicted criminal as Head of IT (deepak.mehta)
>    6. Re: AfriNIC employs a convicted criminal as Head of IT
>       (Owen DeLong)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 11:42:56 -0700
> From: "deepak.mehta" <deepak.mehta at zoho.com>
> Subject: [AFRINIC-rpd] AfriNIC employs a convicted criminal as Head of
> 	IT
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> We, LIR members, pays AfriNIC thousand of dollars as yearly membership fee which is used to renumerate a convicted criminal.
> 
> This is outrageous.
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> http://goo.gl/0fn1C
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> From: JP <froztbyte at froztbyte.net>
> Subject: Re: [AFRINIC-rpd] AfriNIC employs a convicted criminal as
> 	Head of IT
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> On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 11:42:56AM -0700, deepak.mehta wrote:
>>
>> We, LIR members, pays AfriNIC thousand of dollars as yearly membership fee which is used to renumerate a convicted criminal.
>>
>> This is outrageous.
> 
> So previously convicted criminals (who have, by date estimations, completed their sentences) should never be able to get legitimate pay? And keep being criminals?
> 
> http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/131/351/eb6.jpg?1307463786
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> Also why are you even mailing this to the RPD list?
> 
> -J
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 12:02:04 -0700
> From: Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com>
> Subject: Re: [AFRINIC-rpd] AfriNIC employs a convicted criminal as
> 	Head of IT
> To: "deepak.mehta" <deepak.mehta at zoho.com>
> Cc: rpd at afrinic.net
> Message-ID: <1C19DE41-4EB9-4BF5-83C3-6CC499565DCE at delong.com>
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> I don't know the particulars of this situation.
> 
> However, I would like to point out that it is entirely possible to get a conviction such as the one described based on nothing more than a clerical error or the failure to fill out all of the exactly correct forms at exactly the right time in exactly the right manner, which is no easy task and in no way straight forward.
> 
> I will also point out that it is unlikely if this was a case of much more than a clerical error that the defendant would have been released to probation with a $100 fine. The 10 month sentence is very likely to cover the time he spent waiting in prison for his case to come to a resolution. He may not have actually served any additional time in prison and that is a common way to structure these plea bargains.
> 
> I am ashamed to admit it, but, yes, my government will lock someone up for ten months over a clerical error and will push very hard for a plea bargain of this nature in order to avoid liability. They are especially good at doing this in order to take advantage of non-citizens.
> 
> Owen
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> On Mar 18, 2013, at 11:42 AM, deepak.mehta <deepak.mehta at zoho.com> wrote:
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>> We, LIR members, pays AfriNIC thousand of dollars as yearly membership fee which is used to renumerate a convicted criminal.
>>
>> This is outrageous.
>>
>> http://goo.gl/0fn1C
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> Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 12:16:59 -0700
> From: "deepak.mehta" <deepak.mehta at zoho.com>
> Subject: Re: [AFRINIC-rpd] AfriNIC employs a convicted criminal as
> 	Head of IT
> To: Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com>
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> I also don't know the particulars of this situation.
> 
> But the nature of offense is "aggravated illegal re-entry after deportation"
> 
> Why not employ someone convicted for a first degree murder at a RIR ?
> 
> I guess he's innocent in africa.
> 
> dm
> 
> ---- On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 12:02:04 -0700 Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote ---- 
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> 
> I don't know the particulars of this situation.
> 
> However, I would like to point out that it is entirely possible to get a conviction such as the one described based on nothing more than a clerical error or the failure to fill out all of the exactly correct forms at exactly the right time in exactly the right manner, which is no easy task and in no way straight forward.
> 
> 
> I will also point out that it is unlikely if this was a case of much more than a clerical error that the defendant would have been released to probation with a $100 fine. The 10 month sentence is very likely to cover the time he spent waiting in prison for his case to come to a resolution. He may not have actually served any additional time in prison and that is a common way to structure these plea bargains.
> 
> 
> I am ashamed to admit it, but, yes, my government will lock someone up for ten months over a clerical error and will push very hard for a plea bargain of this nature in order to avoid liability. They are especially good at doing this in order to take advantage of non-citizens.
> 
> 
> Owen
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> On Mar 18, 2013, at 11:42 AM, deepak.mehta <deepak.mehta at zoho.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> We, LIR members, pays AfriNIC thousand of dollars as yearly membership fee which is used to renumerate a convicted criminal.
> 
> This is outrageous.
> 
> http://goo.gl/0fn1C
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> From: "deepak.mehta" <deepak.mehta at zoho.com>
> Subject: [AFRINIC-rpd] AfriNIC employs a convicted criminal as Head of
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> http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/USCOURTS-nynd-1_05-cr-00502/pdf/USCOURTS-nynd-1_05-cr-00502-0.pdf
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> We, LIR members, pays AfriNIC thousand of dollars as yearly membership fee which is used to renumerate a convicted criminal.
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> Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 12:29:21 -0700
> From: Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com>
> Subject: Re: [AFRINIC-rpd] AfriNIC employs a convicted criminal as
> 	Head of IT
> To: "deepak.mehta" <deepak.mehta at zoho.com>
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> In the US, the term "aggravated illegal re-entry after deportation" can mean as little as:
> 
> 1.	Entered the country.
> 2.	Overstayed visa (maybe even accidentally and maybe even with his visa having
> 	been shortened without notice in some cases)
> 3.	Was deported for 2
> 4.	Sorted out all the paperwork and got another visa approval.
> 5.	Failed to dot some I or cross some T on the second visa.
> 6.	Entered the country, including clearing customs and immigration and had no idea anything
> 	was wrong.
> 7.	Got picked up later when some database caught the error that occurred in step 5.
> 
> Yes, the above cases have occurred. The current attitude of US Immigration is very messed up. US immigration policy and law is a maze of twisty little passages all different and it is almost impossible to be in full compliance even if you are a US Citizen.
> 
> As such, I would not hold such a conviction against someone unless I knew a whole lot more about the case than is available from the documentation you provided.
> 
> There is a very big difference between making multiple errors navigating a complex process designed to create road-blocks and prevent successful completion vs. actually killing someone.
> 
> Anyway, as someone else pointed out, this is very off-topic for RPD. I won't respond further on list. If you wish to continue the discussion off-list, I am happy to do so.
> 
> Owen
> 
> On Mar 18, 2013, at 12:16 PM, "deepak.mehta" <deepak.mehta at zoho.com> wrote:
> 
>> I also don't know the particulars of this situation.
>>
>> But the nature of offense is "aggravated illegal re-entry after deportation"
>>
>> Why not employ someone convicted for a first degree murder at a RIR ?
>>
>> I guess he's innocent in africa.
>>
>> dm
>>
>> ---- On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 12:02:04 -0700 Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote ---- 
>>
>> I don't know the particulars of this situation.
>>
>> However, I would like to point out that it is entirely possible to get a conviction such as the one described based on nothing more than a clerical error or the failure to fill out all of the exactly correct forms at exactly the right time in exactly the right manner, which is no easy task and in no way straight forward.
>>
>> I will also point out that it is unlikely if this was a case of much more than a clerical error that the defendant would have been released to probation with a $100 fine. The 10 month sentence is very likely to cover the time he spent waiting in prison for his case to come to a resolution. He may not have actually served any additional time in prison and that is a common way to structure these plea bargains.
>>
>> I am ashamed to admit it, but, yes, my government will lock someone up for ten months over a clerical error and will push very hard for a plea bargain of this nature in order to avoid liability. They are especially good at doing this in order to take advantage of non-citizens.
>>
>> Owen
>>
>>
>> On Mar 18, 2013, at 11:42 AM, deepak.mehta <deepak.mehta at zoho.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> We, LIR members, pays AfriNIC thousand of dollars as yearly membership fee which is used to renumerate a convicted criminal.
>>>
>>> This is outrageous.
>>>
>>> http://goo.gl/0fn1C
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