[AfriNIC-rpd] Definitions of LIR versus End User

[Seun Ojedeji]

Hello Andrew
On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Andrew Alston
<alston.networks at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi Seun,
>
> Since there is no non-disclosure clause, I can disclose the following:
>
> *UFS was allocated end user space*, on the condition that we issued
> AfriNIC with a letter that clearly stated that external primary schools
> that the university numbers are numbered out of their legacy space and NOT
> the PI space allocated by AfriNIC to the university.
>
> The student residences were not covered in this letter and *we can use
> the PI space to number those*, it is only the schools which are separate
> legal entities which we had to give specific guarantee we would not number
> with the new space.
>
> Thanks a lot for clarifying this. I think the statement above is very
helpful!

Cheers!

>
> On 23 Jul 2012, at 10:49 AM, Seun Ojedeji wrote:
>
> Hello Owen
>
> On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 8:34 AM, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:
>
>> .... I find it *very hard* to distinguish between the type of service
>> offered to students/faculties residing within
>> *institutional housing *and getting their internet access in said housing
>> from the institution vs. a typical cable *MSO or DSL or Metro-E
>> subscriber*
>> in the outside world.
>>
>> Its really interesting that you found it difficult to distinguish between
> the two scenario even as it seem you have already made the distinct
> difference in your statement above. The words you used(in bold) clarifies
> that, like you said institutional housing just indicates that it is still
> within the same organization however the DSL or Metro-E subscriber exists
> beyond the same organization
>
>
>> That all sounds wonderful on a billboard or in a brochure, but at the end
>> of
>> the day, when it comes to the internet access they receive in their
>> *institutional housing*, they are giving the *university money* and the
>> university is providing access services to connect their residential
>> networks to the internet.
>>
>>  Is it based on the above that universities be clasified as LIR?  Let me
> ask you, who among the end-user does not use the Internet services with the
> aim of making money? university is the one that provides Internet access to
> her community at almost zero charges because they use it to promote
> research activities and encourage their staff and student to provide
> content.
>
> On a lighter note, i thought it was already clear that institutions that
> provides IP resource within her organization are end-user? If yes then
> there should be no reason to continue this discussion. Perhaps it may help
> to hear from any institution that recently applied for resource from
> Afrinic on what classification they were assigned. i.e was it classified as
> end-user OR LIR
> @Andrew could you be kind to tell us what clssification you got in your
> recent request for ip resource from Afrinic(that is if there is no
> non-disclosure clause attached).
>
> Regards
>
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