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[AfriNIC-rpd] Policy Proposal: End user classification for Universities

Jackson Muthili jacksonmuthi at gmail.com
Sat Jun 30 10:16:14 UTC 2012


On 6/30/12, Andrew Alston <alston.networks at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> The IP assigned to the port is controlled by the institution. The port
>> itself is not. Please explain to me how this differs from any other
>> residential ISP on the planet that assigns a single address to a
>> residential ISP connection which they then use to NAT/Route an internal
>> network topology within the residence.
>>
>> What I have described is the exact connection model in use for dorm rooms,
>> faculty residence facilities, and virtually every other residential
>> internet service everywhere I've been.
>>
>> If you can show me a difference or a reason that we should, then, not
>> reclassify all of those residential ISPs as end-users (which would likely
>> bankrupt the registries and increase EU fees substantially), then I am all
>> ears.
>>
>> Owen
>>
> The port is owned and managed by the university firstly.  Secondly, the
> institution policy prohibits more than one device behind the port, NAT like
> that is not allowed, irrespective of if people break the rules.
>
> Now, by your logic, anyone who holds a conference and supplies wifi access
> to the attendees is an LIR, and a service provider.  I mean nothing stopping
> me natting behind open wifi.  Mmm do all the end users who run conferences
> have licenses to act as service providers?  Interesting question that....
>
> Also by your logic, if I run a wifi point at home and someone gains access
> and runs NAT behind it undetected and illegally and provides a load of
> people with access to it, that would make me an LIR...
>
> Luckily there is this little thing in law called intent.... I can explain
> the concept to you if you wish?

When you commit a felony unintentionally it remains a felony. When you
plead guilty the judge could be lenient and punish you less. When you
plead it was not done on intent the judge may be less lenient for your
ignorance.

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