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[AfriNIC-rpd] Policy Proposal: End user classification for Universities
seun.ojedeji at gmail.com
Fri Jun 29 20:46:56 UTC 2012
On Jun 29, 2012 1:20 PM, "Owen DeLong" <owen at delong.com> wrote:
>Policy at ARIN is much like that of AfriNIC. If you are assigning
addresses to external entities, you are an LIR. If you are not, you are an
You have summed this up perfectly, and I think the phrase "external
entities" is what needs to be put in perspective. As far as each Nigeria
institution is concerned, it does not classify it's faculties, departments,
staff quarters, classrooms, dorms, and admin blocks as external entities.
So that makes us an end user right?
For the most part, ARIN allows for organizations to self-select a category,
but, there are also advantages and disadvantages associated with each
category which tend to push organizations into selecting the correct
category to avoid boxing themselves into an uncomfortable corner later.
Sure everything has pros and cons and the option for a university to either
sign up for end user or LIR is there, hence the reason why SF gave an
example of a university being an ISP. The point is if I opt for end user
option, why should I be denied and given only LIR option when I am not
providing service to an external entity (using how external entity is
viewed by law in my institution).
At this point, it can only make sense of AfriNIC note points me to their
own policy terms which defines external policies as different from the way
I understood it.
> You would not say that an apartment complex which provides internet to
every apartment is an end-user, (or at least I would not), but, would
classify them as an LIR because they provide addressing to support networks
which are not within their administrative control.
How do you mean the networks are not within administrative control...Owen
the service is not stationary it's suppose to be distributed to all the
university community users and ofcourse they will require IP address to
connect to the university network. So if I shutdown for instance my dhcp
server, will they still be able to use the service? Is that not me
controlling the network?
> After it hits the first router in the dorm-room, anything behind that is
not within the university's administrative control.
Ah! Are you kidding me. Who bought the router and placed it there in the
first place? who provided IP service to the router. I think you are using
the term administrative control wrongly(this is basic networking).
Hence, I argue that dorms are, in fact, external connections where the
university is acting as an ISP.
As a matter of fact, most internet users are ISP in practical (not in
policy) cos you could just share your pppoe connection in your household.
> IMHO there are policy issues which go beyond price.
And what are the policy issues that goes beyond pricing on the current
I am gonna assume Owen is just having fun and not responding based on facts
and realities on ground. This issue is of importance to African
universities and I urge you to be objective on this matter. Many
universities are still looking to one day when they did be able to sign up
for their space and if the cost is by anyhow further increased, it gives we
engineers more though time to convince the school admins to pay that much
for what is unseen!
I hope you will identify with my views.
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