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[AfriNIC-rpd] Re: Proposal: Reclamation of allocated but unroutedIPv4 addresses.

Andrew Alston aa at
Thu Feb 10 16:53:20 UTC 2011



On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 6:54 PM, David Conrad <drc at> wrote:
> On Feb 10, 2011, at 5:31 AM, Jackson Muthili wrote:
>>> You think that Level(3), GE, Ford and Halliburton et. Al. are going to sign
>>> an Afrinic membership agreement and put their resources under agreement or
>>> allow their resources to be revoked by Afrinic, who had nothing to do with
>>> their initial assignment? Can you give me some basis for this belief?
>> When community has decided by way of policy, what will Level3, GE,
>> Ford et al do? sue? who?
> My guess is they'd simply ignore a policy that negatively impacts them.

They'd ignore till the policy is implemented. If implementation
involved revocation of addresses, they'd do something.
If rpki is adopted, it will be another area where they'll need the RIR
to issue a route origin authorization.

Have to say I disagree here, the people holding the legacy space are often the largest of the ISPs.  Who is going to force the adoption of RPKI if the Level 3's, Cogent's, TATA's etc don't like the way it may end up being used? All your statement has done here in my eyes, is to give yet another argument AGAINST RPKI.  If you've been following the nanog list, there have been several debates in the last few days about handing governments and other entities large internet kill switches.  Why would the global community accept a system that takes what is an extremely resilient mechanism and reduce it to something that has huge potential points of failure and gives the ability to a small elite to pull the plug on the majority?  Do we really want a system that will easily enable another Egypt?

Further more, I'd like some legal opinion on this, but I think court cases against the RIR's attempting to reclaim legacy space are distinct possibility, is that something the RIR's are prepared to risk?  I have my doubts.  I might also point out that the ARIN policy with regards to legacy space *specifically* protects legacy space holders from future policy changes.

> Regards,
> -drc
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