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[AfriNIC-rpd] Effectively dealing with IPv4 trading
Scott Leibrand
scottleibrand at gmail.com
Wed Feb 9 22:26:56 UTC 2011
The challenges are somewhat different, so the solutions will be as well, but you might be able to look at the policies recently passed by other RIRs for some ideas. ARIN's transfer and waiting list policies, for example, touch on two of the issues raised below, and I know the other RIRs have also been discussing proposals that'd be relevant.
Scott
On Feb 9, 2011, at 1:59 PM, "Dorothy K. Gordon" <director-general at aiti-kace.com.gh> wrote:
> Thanks for setting out some of the critical issues so clearly. The situation represents a serious challenge for AfriNIC and I wonder if there is any best practice we can use to guide us. It is clear that our credibility will be under attack and destroyed if black marketeering prevails but as you rightly point out your suggestions raise even more thorny questions. Since everyone knew that this (IPv4 depletion) was going to happen, I am pretty sure that there must be some strategy already worked on.... so I am looking forward to hearing from those who are closer to the action than I am, on how we can leverage this challenge into an opportunity.
>
> best regards
>
> Dorothy K. Gordon
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Graham Beneke" <graham at apolix.co.za>
> To: rpd at afrinic.net
> Sent: Wednesday, 9 February, 2011 9:07:34 PM GMT +00:00 Casablanca / Monrovia
> Subject: [AfriNIC-rpd] Effectively dealing with IPv4 trading
>
> As a follow on from Jackson Muthili's Transfer policy that has received
> no support (as far as I can see)...
>
> I have a concern (shared by others I believe) that:
>
> * As IPv4 gets closer to depletion there will attempts to trade
> resources by those with needs and those with surplus.
>
> * Due to the resource consumption rate in the AfriNIC region we are
> likely to have available resources long after the other regions have
> depleted their supplies.
>
> Many people are heavily opposed to free market trading of addresses.
>
> From an operational point of view I see networks incurring real costs
> in time and labour to renumber networks and free up resources. Should
> they not be compensated for this effort in some way? Would they have any
> motivation to renumber if they didn't?
>
> Regardless of where the resources come from I feel that organisations
> still need to qualify on a needs basis to obtain addresses. But if two
> organisations qualify and there are insufficient addresses available
> then who receives them?
>
> Is there anything more that we can really do to prevent local shell
> companies obtaining resources for usage outside of the region?
>
> Whatever happens - it needs to be as transparent as possible. All
> address assignments need to be recorded and updated in the whois and
> this means that AfriNIC has to participate in the process. Does this
> mean that they provide a trading market? Or just provide operation
> support once trades have been completed? Will address recipients become
> AfriNIC members?
>
> More questions than answers here.
>
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> Graham Beneke
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