[AfriNIC-rpd] abuse contact information in whois database (AFPUB-2010-GEN-002)

[Tobias Knecht]

Am 17.06.2010 02:32, schrieb Leo Vegoda:
> On 16 Jun 2010, at 5:24, Tobias Knecht wrote:
> 
>>> While you are right that it is to some extent a self-made
>>> problem, I am not convinced that requiring additional addresses
>>> to be published will stop people from copying the other addresses
>>> they already send e-mail to. This is down to my perception of
>>> human nature and not to the technical merit of the proposal for
>>> an IRT object or an abuse-c address or any other way of providing
>>> the information.
>> 
>> I fully agree with you, BUT this is not the point here. The point
>> is, that there are AfriNIC members, who want to be able to handle
>> their complaints in an appropriate way and they can not because
>> they are getting their complaints to their personal mailbox. They
>> have spamfilters installed on their personal mailbox which is
>> absolutely okay. But it is not okay for a abuse@ mailbox.
>> 
>> So I think we should not argue about offering a dedicated place
>> for abuse contact information. As I heard everybody agreed on that
>> at the AfriNIC meeting.
> 
> I don't think anyone has objected to the creation/enabling of a
> dedicated mechanism for providing contact information for abuse
> reports.

Sorry, than I got that wrong.

> I do not think the mandatory requirement in the proposal has been as
> warmly welcomed. There has been an observation that it is unlikely to
> reduce the number of misdirected abuse reports as so many people
> reporting abuse have no idea how to do it, nor how their magical
> abuse reporting software gets the addresses it gives them. So they
> just shotgun their report to anyone and everyone, just in case.

Okay look at it that way. If AfriNIC would offer a service, where I
could put in a ip address and get back the abuse contact e-mail address,
why should I start doing painful and really ugly whois queries to send
this stuff to more than the mentioned receiver?

If there will be "stupid" reporters out there sending their stuff to 6
or 7 or 15 people block them. Easy way to get rid of that stuff.
Activate a spamfilter for ARF Reports on your personal email addresses.
Easy as well.

There will be always some people out there which think they are more
important than others and you will not be able to solve their personal
problem. Not in the way it is now, and not in the way I would like to
have this proposal look like ad not the way you would like to see this
proposal.

But we can help the good ones and that is what I would like to do.

Thanks

Tobias

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