[AfriNIC-rpd] RE: Policy Proposal Summary - Cooperative Distribution of the End of the IANA IPv4 Free Pool

[Dr Paulos Nyirenda]

On 15 May 2008 at 14:25, Tony Hain wrote:

> < ... cut ...> this was the wording that all regions 
> are looking at. At
> the same time, it was not necessary that this be a global proposal, as any
> that agree could participate without requiring all to do so.

Then one way to proceed on this is for this to be withdrawn as a 
global policy so that we can close the issue and move forward.

Regards,

Paulos
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Dr Paulos B Nyirenda
NIC.MW & .mw ccTLD
http://www.registrar.mw


On 15 May 2008 at 14:25, Tony Hain wrote:

> All of the RIR's are in denial, refusing to recognize their hypocrisy when
> telling customers that IP addresses are not property, while at the same time
> insisting that the last N /8's become the property of an RIR to the
> exclusion of the rest of the world. Then arguing with each other about the
> 'appropriate size' for N while they are at it. 
> 
> The existing practice will come to an end the day the first RIR has to tell
> a customer to go away because they have run out of space. The world will not
> tolerate a resource being freely available in one place while in high demand
> but unavailable elsewhere. There will be people circumventing the rules, and
> the more restrictive the RIRs try to be, the more bizarre the impact will be
> to the routing and registration systems. The only hope the smaller RIRs have
> of dealing with the mess is to let the larger ones front the requests and
> deal with the documentation. Denying that there will be a problem only
> ensures that there will be no documentation of the fact that the address
> space went where the demand was.
> 
> It should be noted that while ARIN and RIPE turned this down as worded, they
> were both at least willing to understand the concept and talk about a way to
> address it. I never expected this specific wording to be in any formal
> proposals, it was there as an example to base a discussion on. Since there
> was no discussion, this was the wording that all regions are looking at. At
> the same time, it was not necessary that this be a global proposal, as any
> that agree could participate without requiring all to do so.
> 
> Tony 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rpd-bounces at afrinic.net [mailto:rpd-bounces at afrinic.net] On
> > Behalf Of Vincent Ngundi
> > Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 5:10 AM
> > To: AfriNIC Resource Policy Discussion List
> > Subject: Re: [AfriNIC-rpd] Policy Proposal Summary - Cooperative
> > Distribution of the End of the IANA IPv4 Free Pool
> > 
> > Hi Cisco Phil,
> > 
> > Thanks for this insight.
> > 
> > > BTW, this was thrown out of the APNIC region when proposed there,
> > > and given that all RIR regions would have to support it, it isn't
> > > clear to me why it is even being proposed here.
> > 
> > (a) Being a global policy, it was proposed at the same time in all
> > RIR's.
> > 
> > (b) For a policy to be rejected by members of the AfriNIC region, it
> > must go through the approved policy development policy. Let's see
> > what the community has to say.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > -Vincent
> > 
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