[AfriNIC-rpd] What is our take on the central pool IPv4 exhaustion?

Mon Aug 13 08:53:04 UTC 2007

The IP divide will happen if Africa doesn't move to IPv6 *NOW* not because
we run out of IPv4 or anything like that. As said before, trying to increase
the availability of IPv4 is artificial and NOT HELPFUL AT ALL !

Developing regions have even more reasons to move to IPv6 faster, and to
allow the innovation in the regions to happen *before* developed regions,
increasing the competition opportunities.

Developing applications with IPv6 is far more easier than with IPv4 and this
provides a path for African people to do business while the rest of the
world is still spending tons of dollars/euros in developing less advanced
applications that traverse NATs.

And by the way, I still haven't seen a single network where IPv6 is not
supported. There is always a good walk around for every network case.

So my question to all those that believe that they can't start running IPv6
in their network is: Have you really tried it ? If that's the case, or if
you need help, just let me know. I will show that nothing is impossible, at
least not to start moving to IPv6 :-)

Regards,
Jordi

> De: Badru Ntege <ntegeb at one2net.co.ug>
> Responder a: AfriNIC Resource Policy Discussion List <rpd at afrinic.net>
> Fecha: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 08:58:16 +0300
> Para: 'AfriNIC Resource Policy Discussion List' <rpd at afrinic.net>
> Asunto: RE: [AfriNIC-rpd] What is our take on the central pool IPv4
> exhaustion?
> 
>  
>> 
>> The assertion that IPv6 transition will take another fifteen years is
>> completely ludicrous hyperbole and based on no fact. Your attitude
>> merely prolongs the "chicken and egg" problem. The facts are clear;
>> IPv4 is running out, IPv6 is the sustainable solution, _you_ want it
>> as soon as possible. Do your self a favor and join an ARIN list and
>> follow the discussions there. THEY are gearing for definite switch
>> dates, APNIC already have done this - where are we? More importantly
>> where are _you_ and where is your business? If you don't keep up your
>> business certainly won't be with those who did keep up.
>> 
>> As for dual stacked networks, these are a transition mechanism in
>> order for migrations to take place in a seamless and coordinated way.
>> Implementing or working on IPv6 systems without a dual stack would be
>> impossibly unfeasible. They are not an end in their own or a reason
>> anyone should defer their implementation of IPv6.
>> 
>> --
>> Colin Alston <colin at thusa.co.za>     ______
>  
> [Badru Ntege] 
> 
> I think we all know that the future network will definitely be a V6 network
> and work has been going on for quite some time.  V6 has and will continue to
> take a key part of all AfriNIC meetings. However we cannot escape reality
> that we are in Africa and not the US or Europe.   The fact that our economic
> conditions in the rest of the continent are far different from those of the
> US and Europe Let alone south Africa.   The fact that as Richard stated
> earlier and echoed by a few others that half our networks run on post end of
> life cisco equipement which is not V6 ready.
> 
> So as much as the logical thing to do today is to advocate for an immediate
> switch we have to understand that it will take a few years for propagation
> to happen and thus we will have to maintain and in some instances grow our
> V4 networks on the continent in order not to disenfranchise those who cannot
> afford to switch today.  This will definitely create a new problem which we
> need to put our heads together to now avoid what might come to be called the
> "IP divide" as opposed to the much used "digital divide".
> 
> For those who have not seen these here are some interesting stats.
> 
> IPV4 allocations per RIR between January 1999 and March 2007
> 
> AfriNIC, 1%
> APNIC, 32%
> ARIN, 31%
> LACNIC, 4%
> RIPE NCC, 32%
> 
> IPV6 Allocations by RIR  between January 1999 and March 2007
> 
> 
> AfriNIC, 2%
> APNIC, 23%
> ARIN, 18%
> LACNIC, 7%
> RIPE NCC, 50%
> 
> So on V6 you will see that we are not doing badly which reflects on the
> training and outreach that AfriNIC has been doing over the years.
> 
> One of the big debates then is how do we divide out the remaining pool of
> V4??  There's a school of thought that says we divide it equally among the
> five RIR's.  My argument at the moment until convinced otherwise is how we
> define equal??.  1% of the current allocation does not co-relate to equal
> when you look at the stats and this might be attributed to our late entry
> into becoming an RIR and also to our historical economic challenges which I
> do believe that as a continent are behind us.
> 
> So to move forward we need to propose a two pronged approach which ensures
> sustainability of growth through affordable entry platforms (legacy v4) and
> aggressive transition to V6 to avoid our historical habits of arriving last
> to the table and then try to claim our share of the pie which has already
> been consumed. (I hasten to add that this is what I'm proposing by redefine
> equal distribution to have a weighting towards LACNIC and AfriNIC making
> sure that we get a fare share of the V4 pie)
> 
> Regards
> 
> Badru
> 
> 
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