[AfriNIC-rpd] What is our take on the central pool IPv4 exhaustion?

[Andrew Alston]

Hi Adiel and others,

My point here was this:

In a market where IPv4 space will start getting traded outside of the
auspicious of the RIR, in the so called "second market", as we are very
likely to see as IPv4 space depreciates, RR registries are going to become
imperative to prevent the theft of IP space.  In order to properly manage
space, these registries are in my opinion not optional, they are mandatory.

I do not understand how the running of a registry that shows what prefixs
are being announced by which asn's, both of which are provided by the RIR,
is not a core function of the RIR, that does not make sense in my mind.

AfriNIC in my opinion should make this an urgent priority with the coming of
the second market, and it *SHOULD* be a core focus,

That's just my opinions however

Andrew



On 8/13/07 9:43 AM, "Adiel A. Akplogan" <adiel at afrinic.net> wrote:

> Thanks for your point,
> 
> Note that:
> 
> 1) AfriNIC did not run a RR at all. So your statement about running a
>     "proper" RR is not correct.
> 
> 2 ) Routing Registry is not a function that is part of the core activity
>      of an RIR ... and not all of them run one. There are many RR outside
>      of the RIR system out there that one can use to set their filters.
> 
> Though people think that it is advisable for RIRs as they manage IP
> resources they could also offer RR service. It is the reason why we are
> investigating internally the possibility of offering it. It is part of
> our activity plan of this year, but clearly it was not the higher priority
> for us until now.
> 
> 3) Finally when we started our activities we had an agreement with RIPE
>     NCC to host route object for our members who request it from us, so the
>     use of RIPE RR is a common agreement between AfriNIC and RIPE.
> 
> Thanks and hop this clarify the situation.
> 
> - a.
> 
> 
> 
>> Hello Adiel,
>> 
>> The point relating to route objects databases refers to the fact that at the
>> moment, in order to register route objects, it is necessary to use the RIPE
>> database, at least to my knowledge (if I am incorrect in this, I apologise
>> and I would *WELCOME* an AfriNIC route objects database)
>> 
>> Basically for clarity, a route object database is a publically queryable
>> database of which prefix's are actively being advertised by an ASN, and
>> possibly to who they are being advertised.
>> 
>> Such a database is necessary for proper bogon filtering and tracking.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Andrew
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 8/13/07 7:54 AM, "Adiel A. Akplogan" <adiel at afrinic.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Andrew,
>>> 
>>>> I mean, at the moment AfriNIC doesn't run RUN a
>>>> proper route objects database, those of us that DO have route objects have
>>>> them in RIPE's database... yet we expect them to intervene in a
>> market like
>>>> this?  Lets be sensible and think about this realistically shall we?
>>> 
>>> Can you please clarified the above statement?
>>> 
>>> - a.
>>> 
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