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[AfriNIC-rpd] IPv4 BoF report

Fri May 18 21:08:16 UTC 2007

I was probably the one that in the BoF introduced about the second market
and the RIRs needing to participate.

I explained that I'd delivered a proposal to the 5 RIRs CEOs about a couple
of months ago. The basic idea behind the proposal is that if the RIRs do
some work NOW regarding the second market, instead of letting it happen
without any stewardship, it will become against the RIRs model. Instead, if
the RIRs try to seeks what are the best alternatives for that secondary
market and somehow endorse it from the community itself, then it will be in
our side not against us. It is not clear how we do that, and that's why I
need some further study of many possible choices and combinations of them is

For example, I also mention that one of the possible ways to control this
market is the resource certification. But the community need to agree to
make usage of that and avoid non-certified resources to be in our routers
(for example), so people not following the community model will be able to
get addresses on the secondary market, but they may be filtered in
hopefully, a big part of Internet.


> De: Alain Patrick AINA <aalain at>
> Organización: technologies réseaux et Solutions (
> Responder a: <aalain at>, AfriNIC Resource Policy Discussion List
> <rpd at>
> Fecha: Fri, 18 May 2007 19:30:55 +0000
> Para: Andrew Alston <aa at>
> CC: AfriNIC Resource Policy Discussion List <rpd at>
> Asunto: Re: [AfriNIC-rpd] IPv4 BoF report
> hi,
>> - seek a mechanism to facilitate the regulation of the second market in the
>> favor of local community
>> You can't regulate something like this, it won't ever fly. Infact even the
>> suggestion scares me, it borders on ITU style country based registries that
>> are governmentally controlled... and all of us at AfriNIC 2005 in Cairo saw
>> the reaction to *THAT* idea.  Unless I misunderstand what you mean by
>> regulate, which is entirely possible, if so please can you give some
>> clarity on what is meant by this.
>  "facilitate" seems more appropriate than "regulate"
>> - dig further on  ressources certification and see how it can be used to
>> regulate the second market.
>> Can you clarify this point?
> The second market will bring  and amplify some issues issues like :
> -Integrity of the ressources transfer
> -Ressources "sold" multiple times
> -Hijacking of IP addresses
> -Transfer of title on ressources
> -etc.....
> which will  affect  "THE UNIQUENESS of IP  adresses" which is critical for the
> infrastructure.
> Resource certification if  DEPLOYED and UTILIZED, can be extended to help
> with integrity of transferred resources, Transfer of ownership and
> Exclusivity of transfers, ..........
> Ps: I suggest that those who did not attend the BoF read the related documents
> listed at the end of the report.
> hope this helps,
> --alain
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