[DBWG] All AFRINIC-administered IP space

Frank Habicht geier at geier.ne.tz
Sun Jul 25 05:48:36 UTC 2021


Below/inline.

On 25/07/2021 07:55, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote:

> I honestly was not aware of the fact that people had to pay money to

> get routes into the RADB data base until I saw this message that I am

> responding to (from Noah). This puts a whole different light on the

> problem!

>

> RADB is operated by Merit, Inc. which is located in the State of Michigan,

> U.S.A. All I knew... up until now... was that it is a "non profit" entity:

>

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merit_Network

>

> Based on that one small scrap of information, I had incorrectly assumed

> that it was 100% free for people to add routes to the RADB. But apparently

> not so! Far from it! I see now that the company charges a HEFTY annual

> membership fee to all those who want to put route objects in their data

> base:

>

> For-Profit Organization $595.00 USD

> Non-Profit Organization $425.00 USD

>

> That is a LONG way from free!

>

> So, this certainly raises a number of (awkward?) questions, such as

>

> (*) Does RADB -remove- routes from their data base when someone

> stops paying the annual membership fee? (The evidence suggests

> that they fail to do such cleanups.)


I strongly believe YES, route objects get removed.



> (*) Will RADB allow paying members to add routes to bogon IP space,

> and/or to bogon AS numbers?


Oh yes!
also space that is not theirs.


> Now that I know they charge BIG money for allowing people to add routes to

> their RADB data base, I must say that I do view their past unhelpfulness

> in a somewhat different light.


sure it would be different if you paid something.


> P.S. Do dues-paying resource members of AFRINIC have to pay anything

> extra to get routes added to the AFRINIC IRR?


no.
btw: also resource members who don't pay (like IXPs) get the IRR
functions for free.


> Or is that free as part

> of the basic membership services?


It is.

Frank



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