[Community-Discuss] Governance Committee Communique

Sun May 1 10:29:19 UTC 2022

Dear Mirriam,

 The bylaw is clear and it never stated those committee.

The board resolution did. What do you expect in the first place.

The board cannot be the Alpha and omega of the community. That is exactly
my point.  A Bottom- up process must be followed and not top- down.

The Board cannot be the one to make theses rules. The board is simply
extending the term of another board member and the same board member voted
in the process. Who does this except the military rulers we have in Africa.
And the followers simply approve it cos of .... and' positivity'.

 Do you expect a different result? Keep up the  positivity' and let me keep
milking you.

Yours truly

AK ..*MSc, PhD (Telecommunications/ Electronics Engineering, University of
York, UK.) *

On Sun, 1 May 2022, 11:08 Mirriam, <mirriamlauren at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hello Abdulkarim,
>
>  >>If you think that it is right for the board members to be the ones to
> appoint fellow board   >>members on a long term basis, appoint all members
> of the governance committee, all   >>members of the appeal committee and
> all other committees and appoint the co-chair for the   >>PDP by proxy then
> please come out clearly and say you think it is right.
>
>
> Pardon me, but I am not sure if you are completely not aware or it's just
> sheer ignorance on your part because, The AFRINIC Constitution or Bylaws in
> Article 15 (power of directors) subsection 15.2 (10) clearly states as
> below;
>
> 15.2 above, the Directors shall be entitled to:
>
> 15.2(10)  to appoint such committees for such reasons and with such terms
> of reference as they shall consider necessary or desirable.
>
> Therefore, the committees your are referring too above (GovCom, Appeals
> Committee etc) exist by means of provisions of the Constitution of AFRINIC
> which the board is mandated to abide by and the board resolutions below.
>
> Governance Committee https://afrinic.net/board/meeting/2015#r254
>
> Resolution 201511.254 reads; WHEREAS the community has asked the Board to
> create a Governance Committee;
>
> The need for this Appeal Committee is specified in section 3.5 of the
> Consolidated Policy Manual and the relevant section states as below;
>
>
> The AFRINIC CPM Section 3.5.3 has a statement that contains the sentence
> that reads; "The AFRINIC Board of Directors shall appoint a recall
> committee".  Therefore in the event that a recall committee findings end up
> with the removal of Co-chairs, the powers to appointing the new co-chairs
> rests with the PDWG and the community and not the board.
>
> Therefore, as for your point of Co-Chairs appointment by proxy, its
> completely wrong for you to make false statements like this because as I
> recall, the PDWG selected the current co-chairs last years and the entire
> discussion on how the selection was done is publicly archived on this
> mailing list.
>
> All your claims are false because they are not backed by facts. I have
> attempted to present to you real facts using the various sections of the
> Bylaws, Resolutions and PDP Manual on how the board is empowered by the
> book to appoint all this committees.
>
>
>   >>My mail is just to put things on the record because I know at the
> moment there is nothing like
>   >>the authentic AFRINIC community except a few individuals who are
> really honest.
>
> The above proves my point of the cynicism that continues to create
> distrust in our community. With all the challenges that AFRINIC is facing
> today, AFRINIC and it's community needs Positivity not endless Negativity.
>
>
> Happy Eid al Fitr
> Mirriam.
> On Sunday, May 1, 2022, 06:09:30 AM GMT+3, ABDULKARIM OLOYEDE <
> oloyede.aa at unilorin.edu.ng> wrote:
>
>
> Dear Mirriam,
> Apologies for my 'relentless nonsense' and for telling me what is beneath
> me. I didn't know that having a PhD is so prestigious that so many things
> are now beneath me.  I was thinking that I use the residual knowledge from
> my prestigious PhD to enlighten a few community members (i guess people
> like you) who might be thinking some of these men are fighting an African
> course or let me say for the good of the African community. Be clear, they
> are only fighting for their daily bread and the survival of their wife and
> Kids.
>
> If you think that it is right for the board members to be the ones to
> appoint fellow board members on a long term basis, appoint all members of
> the governance committee, all members of the appeal committee and all other
> committees and appoint the co-chair for the PDP by proxy then please come
> out clearly and say you think it is right.  Let us have it on record. I
> have not seen a rationale for this top-down community but who knows.
>
> My mail is just to put things on the record because I know at the moment
> there is nothing like the authentic AFRINIC community except a few
> individuals who are really honest. God spearing our life, by whatever
> means, some of us would come together, we would make it a long term project
> to create a community that would be bottom-up but if in the process we also
> get power drunk (cos we are also human) no one should now blame anyone.
>
>  Please be clear, I am not a saint, I am not always right but like you
> mention I am 100%sure that my prestigious PhD is enough to give me my daily
> bread till I die,  I do not intend to get my daily bread from AFRINIC under
> the guise of fighting the AFRICAN COURSE.
>
>
> Yours truly
>
> AK ..*MSc, PhD (Telecommunications/ Electronics Engineering, University
> of York, UK.) *
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 30, 2022 at 10:13 PM Mirriam <mirriamlauren at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Dear Abdulkarim
>
> I am really disgusted by your relentless nonsense.  We women who are on
> these lists are not encouraged to participate because of reading the petty
> emails that have been flying from you and others.
>
> It was a pleasure meeting you in Kampala and I still have your business
> card but this is beneath you.
>
> Can you raise above your endless cynicism because it's not worth for a
> person with a PhD.
>
> I wish you all a Happy Eid al Fitr
> Mirriam.
>
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> On Fri, Apr 29, 2022 at 2:41 AM, ABDULKARIM OLOYEDE
> <oloyede.aa at unilorin.edu.ng> wrote:
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