[Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Congratulations to the new Chair & Vice-Chair of AFRINIC

Wed Jun 8 17:28:01 UTC 2022

Thank you dear CEO Eddy for the clarifications.
I would like to join others with congratulations to both Mr. Ben & Dr.
Abdalla, and wish them success and great courage in their new roles of
Chair and vice-chair respectively, in this space which tends to become a
zero-tolerance and zero-trust system.
I also extend thanks to the former Chair and vice-chair for their hard and
voluntary work in a difficult context in leadership over the past two years.

Warm regards,
Janvier Ngnoulaye
University of Yaounde 1

Le mer. 8 juin 2022 à 12:09, Eddy Kayihura <eddy at afrinic.net> a écrit :

> Dear All,
>
> The process was followed as per the bylaws provisions.
>
> Regards,
>
> Eddy
>
> On 8 Jun 2022, at 12:57, Noah <noah at neo.co.tz> wrote:
>
> 
> Andrew,
>
> On Wed, 8 Jun 2022, 13:48 Andrew Alston, <Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On the contrary Noah,
>>
>>
>>
>> No one is “throwing shade” – we are asking the board to confirm that the
>> process was correctly followed. Which, considering the events of the AGMM
>> and the blatant violations of the bylaws that occurred there – is a very
>> fair question to ask.
>>
>
> I am certain the CEO and the board have read your fair questions and
> without doubt they shall respond, however, the claims of lack of quorum by
> some is what I was referring to in respect to the bylaws which I attempted
> to explain and Mark Elkins did us a service to paste the said section for
> the doubtful thomas's among us.
>
>>
>>
>> And – if you dispute there were blatant violations of the bylaws in the
>> context of the AGMM – Please, let me know – I will quote you chapter and
>> verse as to exactly where they happened.
>>
>
> This is something else, so let us not mix things up.
>
> Noah
>
>>
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Noah <noah at neo.co.tz>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 8, 2022 1:39 PM
>> *To:* Mark Elkins <mje at posix.co.za>
>> *Cc:* AFRINIC Community Discuss <community-discuss at afrinic.net>; AfriNIC
>> Discuss <members-discuss at afrinic.net>; Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [members-discuss] [Community-Discuss] Congratulations to
>> the new Chair & Vice-Chair of AFRINIC
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Mark
>>
>>
>>
>> This is exactly what I was educating someone on a separate thread on
>> members list but it seems we are a point where throwing shades at the board
>> at any chance some folks get, is a thing now.
>>
>>
>>
>> Noah
>>
>> On Wed, 8 Jun 2022, 13:16 Mark Elkins, <mje at posix.co.za> wrote:
>>
>> Just so that people are clear... Page 30 of the AfriNIC Bylaws.... image
>> cut from the PDF.
>>
>> Thus if there are at least three Board Members, if one leaves the room -
>> the last two can call a meeting, see that there is no quorum, send notice
>> to the third, adjourn the meeting and then after at least 24 hours, conduct
>> a meeting in quorum assuming then that there are at least three Board
>> members. If this happens - it must be minuted.
>>
>> On 6/8/22 6:36 AM, Andrew Alston via Community-Discuss wrote:
>>
>> Hi Owen,
>>
>>
>>
>> Well - it depends.  If a non-quorate meeting was called and then
>> adjourned for 24 hours and reconvened they would gain quorum under the
>> bylaws.
>>
>>
>>
>> The question becomes - and this is where I am uncertain and believe it is
>> open to debate - can a meeting be called knowing full well that quorum
>> cannot be there and then adjourned for 24 hours to gain quorum - thereby
>> deliberately exploiting a loophole.  It is one thing to call a meeting
>> thinking you would have quorum - not getting it - adjourning for 24 hours
>> and then gaining quorum after giving notice to the absent directors.  It is
>> another thing entirely to call a meeting knowing full well quorum could not
>> be met and having no one to give notice to.
>>
>>
>>
>> Either way at bare minimum a meeting would have had to be called -
>> adjourned 24 hours - and then reconvened to be quorate.  This would have to
>> be minuted.  The board has been silent on if this process was followed
>> despite members asking the question.  Once again we face a situation where
>> this organization is not answering legitimate questions from its members -
>> and to me that is even more troublesome than the quorum issue.
>>
>>
>>
>> Furthermore - last I checked the board of directors page online had
>> updated the chair and vice chair but was still showing the old directors
>> listed as current - why has that not been updated to show the vacant seats
>> accordingly
>>
>>
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>>
>>
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>> *From:* Owen DeLong via Community-Discuss <community-discuss at afrinic.net>
>> <community-discuss at afrinic.net>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 8, 2022 12:54:52 AM
>> *To:* Ish Sookun <ish.sookun at lasentinelle.mu>
>> <ish.sookun at lasentinelle.mu>
>> *Cc:* AFRINIC Community Discuss <community-discuss at afrinic.net>
>> <community-discuss at afrinic.net>; AfriNIC Discuss
>> <members-discuss at afrinic.net> <members-discuss at afrinic.net>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Community-Discuss] Congratulations to the new Chair &
>> Vice-Chair of AFRINIC
>>
>>
>>
>> How did the board hold a meeting given that they cannot field a quorum
>> after the AGMM?
>>
>> Owen
>>
>>
>> > On Jun 7, 2022, at 00:15 , Ish Sookun <ish.sookun at lasentinelle.mu>
>> <ish.sookun at lasentinelle.mu> wrote:
>> >
>> > Dear Mr. Eshun & Dr. Omari,
>> >
>> > I congratulate both of you for your appointment as Chairman and
>> Vice-Chairman of AFRINIC respectively.
>> > I wish you all the best and hope you will be able to navigate the
>> organisation through the rough waters.
>> >
>> > I also thank SM for his time, guidance and leadership.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > ———
>> >
>> > Ish Sookun
>> >
>> > Systems Architect @ La Sentinelle Ltd
>> >
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