<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">Thank you dear CEO Eddy for the clarifications.<br>I would like to join others with congratulations to both Mr. Ben & Dr. Abdalla, and wish them success and great courage in their new roles of Chair and vice-chair respectively, in this space which tends to become a zero-tolerance and zero-trust system.<br>I also extend thanks to the former Chair and vice-chair for their hard and voluntary work in a difficult context in leadership over the past two years.<br><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">Warm regards,<br>Janvier Ngnoulaye<br>University of Yaounde 1<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Le mer. 8 juin 2022 à 12:09, Eddy Kayihura <<a href="mailto:eddy@afrinic.net">eddy@afrinic.net</a>> a écrit :<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="ltr"></div><div dir="ltr">Dear All,</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">The process was followed as per the bylaws provisions.</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Regards,</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Eddy</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On 8 Jun 2022, at 12:57, Noah <<a href="mailto:noah@neo.co.tz" target="_blank">noah@neo.co.tz</a>> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="auto"><div>Andrew,<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 8 Jun 2022, 13:48 Andrew Alston, <<a href="mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com" target="_blank">Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal">On the contrary Noah,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">No one is “throwing shade” – we are asking the board to confirm that the process was correctly followed. Which, considering the events of the AGMM and the blatant violations of the bylaws that occurred there – is a very fair question to
ask.</p></div></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I am certain the CEO and the board have read your fair questions and without doubt they shall respond, however, the claims of lack of quorum by some is what I was referring to in respect to the bylaws which I attempted to explain and Mark Elkins did us a service to paste the said section for the doubtful thomas's among us.</div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">And – if you dispute there were blatant violations of the bylaws in the context of the AGMM – Please, let me know – I will quote you chapter and verse as to exactly where they happened.</p></div></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">This is something else, so let us not mix things up.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Noah</div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Noah <<a href="mailto:noah@neo.co.tz" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">noah@neo.co.tz</a>> <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 8, 2022 1:39 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Mark Elkins <<a href="mailto:mje@posix.co.za" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">mje@posix.co.za</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> AFRINIC Community Discuss <<a href="mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">community-discuss@afrinic.net</a>>; AfriNIC Discuss <<a href="mailto:members-discuss@afrinic.net" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">members-discuss@afrinic.net</a>>; Owen DeLong <<a href="mailto:owen@delong.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">owen@delong.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [members-discuss] [Community-Discuss] Congratulations to the new Chair & Vice-Chair of AFRINIC<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This is exactly what I was educating someone on a separate thread on members list but it seems we are a point where throwing shades at the board at any chance some folks get, is a thing now.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p>Just so that people are clear... Page 30 of the AfriNIC Bylaws.... image cut from the PDF.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p>Thus if there are at least three Board Members, if one leaves the room - the last two can call a meeting, see that there is no quorum, send notice to the third, adjourn the meeting and then after at least 24 hours, conduct a meeting in quorum assuming then
that there are at least three Board members. If this happens - it must be minuted.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Well - it depends. If a non-quorate meeting was called and then adjourned for 24 hours and reconvened they would gain quorum under the bylaws.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The question becomes - and this is where I am uncertain and believe it is open to debate - can a meeting be called knowing full well that quorum cannot be there and then adjourned for 24 hours to gain quorum - thereby deliberately exploiting
a loophole. It is one thing to call a meeting thinking you would have quorum - not getting it - adjourning for 24 hours and then gaining quorum after giving notice to the absent directors. It is another thing entirely to call a meeting knowing full well
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<p class="MsoNormal">Either way at bare minimum a meeting would have had to be called - adjourned 24 hours - and then reconvened to be quorate. This would have to be minuted. The board has been silent on if this process was followed despite members asking
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<p class="MsoNormal">Furthermore - last I checked the board of directors page online had updated the chair and vice chair but was still showing the old directors listed as current - why has that not been updated to show the vacant seats accordingly<u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 8, 2022 12:54:52 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Ish Sookun <a href="mailto:ish.sookun@lasentinelle.mu" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">
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> Dear Mr. Eshun & Dr. Omari,<br>
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> I congratulate both of you for your appointment as Chairman and Vice-Chairman of AFRINIC respectively.<br>
> I wish you all the best and hope you will be able to navigate the organisation through the rough waters.<br>
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> I also thank SM for his time, guidance and leadership.<br>
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