[Community-Discuss] Lu Heng + Larus and the Number Resource Society
oloyede.aa at unilorin.edu.ng
Sun Oct 3 14:39:13 UTC 2021
My attention has just been drawn to your email.
I had wanted to reply to your numerous ignorant, unguarded and
attention-seeking emails in the past, but I felt I would only be dignifying
you by responding. However, you have crossed the line here, and I need to
write against my resolve to not comment on some of these issues publicly
anymore. Therefore, my response here is not to dignify your stupidity but
to clarify things to those who might mistake your nonsense for the truth.
Let me be clear, *I have never lied to the community* (provide any
evidence if you have one), *nor did I ever abuse the PDP in any way.* All
the decisions we took are in line with the PDP, and we (cos I never took
any decision alone) took those decisions based on publicly available
information and in line with the PDP.
You and your group were not comfortable with those decisions not because
they were wrong or because the process was erroneous but instead because
they do not serve your selfish interest. You decided to set a bad
precedence to appeal almost all our decisions and till date to God be the
glory NONE of those appeals were ever successful instead, you and your
group have now made AFRINIC more dysfunctional than ever before. Prosperity
has been fair to us. At the very least, I can come out to BOLDLY say that
the appeal committee that was in place even before we became the Co-chair
NEVER overturned ANY of our decisions. We had no influence on the appeal
committee, unlike what you and your friends are now doing. This to me is a
clear testimony that we did the right thing. We now have a situation where
Noah is now assuming the role of complainant and judge at the same time.
This you still have to do long after your kangaroo process. What a
shame!!!. Even the kangaroo process never said we did follow the the PDP
rather they had to invent a new word just to satisfy the target you gave
them. You and your friends have now manipulated the process (against the
PDP) to bring in the so-called "co-chairs" we have no problem with that as
it was a relief for us but is that what you call a consensus or did that
process followed the "Norm" ?. If Yes, was it in any way different from
what we did? When it suits you, you come out to say the consensus is not a
game of numbers, but when it is against you, you come out to say the
process was manipulated. If everyone had decided to follow your exact
methods, hell would have let loose cos it only takes about 5-6 individuals
to manipulate the system as you did (a story for another day). Things have
now gone from bad to worse even for the PDP process. All decisions are now
being appealed thanks to your precedence, and the appeal committee is now
being turned into a tool just to make sure that you and your small group of
friends can fully manipulate the entire system.
Let me be clear once again. A long time ago, I decided not to respond to
you publicly anymore but I would take all necessary, including legal
actions against you, if you ever attempt to defame my character again.
To all others, I apologies Noah crossed the line and I was left with no
other choice since those in-charge of the CoC refused to call him to order
until i ran into his nonsense 5 days after .
On Tue, Sep 28, 2021 at 10:43 AM Noah <noah at neo.co.tz> wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Sep 2021, 16:30 Lu Heng, <h.lu at anytimechinese.com> wrote:
>> As exactly that, Owen does not make a representation of me, or any of
>> the company some might think he represents, his understanding is
>> entirely his own and does not speak for me, or NRS.
> Very well, this is clear now since Owen often purports to speak on behalf
> of your various entities using the "*We*" blah blah blah.
>> To my understanding, NRS is not trying to make representation of
>> anyone here in the community, and it never did, it's passing on a
>> teaching/a view of the world some might find acceptable, some may find
> The documents being sent to various resource members contain deceit and
> misrepresentation so much so for false teaching expeditions by your
> self-serving NRS. Based on my years of participation in this community, I
> note that, no single resource member and I repeat, no single resource
> member has ever gone this far or acted in this manner with your motives
> becoming clearer, each day that passes from Cloud Innovation Ltd and all
> its affiliates.
> - I do not know of a resource member, who has attempted to recruit other
> resource members through deceit (NRS) until you Lu.
> - I do not know of a resource member whose associates (I mean your Larus
> Foundation Fellows) have repeatedly acted as an echo-chamber to ensure the
> AFRINIC PDP is rendered dysfunctional.
> - I do not know of a resource member who has attempted to work behind the
> scenes and push for a draft proposal through proxy authors until you Lu.
> You were always behind this Antony Ubah and Taiwo draft policy which the
> community rejected that today has pending PDWG appeals. If you deny what I
> just stated, I will ask a renowned community member to speak out about what
> I just stated.
> *Case #5: Cloud Innovation Ltd vs AFRINIC (SC/COM/MOT/000382/2021)On 07
> July 2021, Cloud Innovation Ltd initiated an application for Injunction
> against AFRINIC requiring its board of directors to ratify a certain
> resource transfer policy. The matter is resisted by AFRINIC and is ongoing.*
> We the community rejected the proposal above because the co-chair errored
> and we appealed as we are empowered through the bottom up process. One of
> the former co-chairs, Abdulkarim, repeatedly lied to the community and
> abused the PDP process to forcefully advance this proposal which you have
> always pushed for behind the scenes. The proposal in fact was never even
> compatible with any RIR in all its multiple versions 2, version, 3 or
> version 4 all of which were rushed through by your associates Antony and
> Today, you want to hijack the empowered internet community and its
> bottom-up process by going to the Mauritian supreme courts in an attempt to
> force the court to ratify the flawed self-serving draft policy of yours.
> More than ever, the motive is clear, you want to use the policy as a means
> to again, as usual, abuse existing community developed processes so that
> you can get the opportunity to transfer the space that was allocated to you
> for use in AFRICA out of the region.
> I repeat, I do not know of a resource member who has invested so much
> energy in pushing a draft policy proposal that never reached community
> consensus until you Lu. AbdulKarim screaming Rough Consensus, Consensus, No
> Consensus and Consensus within 4 weeks in the last call does not make for
> In the history of the AFRINIC PDP, no proposal has ever been protested
> like your resource transfer policy and that should tell you something about
> the bottom up process which you clearly do not respect or have a clue
> Your behaviour is so wanting Lu.
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