[Community-Discuss] Share About Cloud Innovation Ltd and their business

Owen DeLong owen at delong.com
Thu Jul 29 01:36:56 UTC 2021

> On Jul 28, 2021, at 14:25 , Ronald F. Guilmette <rfg at tristatelogic.com> wrote:


> In message <A6907712-42DC-4D51-8EDA-F9EE6F1D4066 at delong.com>,

> Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:


>> We have already agreed that the original justification is no longer relevant


> What is this "we" Owen? Is that the royal "we"? Because *I* certainly

> have no recollection that *I* ever agreed that the original justification

> that was used as the basis for Cloud Innovation being granted two /11

> blocks and two /12 blocks is "no longer relevant".

We, as in Cloud Innovation.

> And given what we now know... largely due to my work... about all of the

> funny business that occurred at AFRINIC between, say, 2010 and February,

> 2015... the same time period when much or all of "The Great AFRINIC Heist"

> happened... AND given the absolute and complete lack of public information

> about how Cloud Innovation's allocations came to be in the first place,

> I, for one, remain deeply curious about everything related to how those

> allocations came to be made, back in 2013 and 2014.

Cloud Innovation submitted correct and valid justifications under policy which
were reviewed not only by staff, but also by the AFRINIC board. The board
elected ti have the addresses issued after deliberating the matter. Yes, as
is the case with any other resource member, that justification remains confidential.

> The only scrap of information that has, so far, been made pubic about that

> decision process is that the decision(s) to grant Cloud Innovation two

> /11 blocks and two /12 blocks were NOT made by the Board at the time,

> but rather by "staff". (Well, anyway, there were some public mailing

> list messages to that effect at the time.)

Whether the ultimate decision was made by staff or by the board, certainly the
board reviewed and weighed in on at least the last two to the best of my knowledge.


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