[Community-Discuss] Notice to all the legacy netblocks holders in AfriNIC

[Owen DeLong]

> On Oct 26, 2020, at 12:30 , Elad Cohen <elad at netstyle.io> wrote:

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> Hello Everyone,

> 

> AfriNIC are trying to impose all of their adopted policies on any legacy resource and on any legacy resource holder, even ones that didn't sign any RSA. In the legal case that I initiated.


This is appropriate. The RSA is a useful document spelling out the rights and responsibilities of AfriNIC customers who are entitled to services from AfriNIC.

If you didn’t sign an RSA, then you’re not a customer and anything AfriNIC does for you is essentially a gracious favor, not something you are entitled to.

The lack of an RSA does not entitle you to violate the policies set by the community for the administration of number resource registrations.


> AfriNIC, including the CEO of AfriNIC are hiding it from the community. AFRINIC CEO is hiding it in his latest report as well when he linked in it to the "Legacy Resource Holders" (https://afrinic.net/membership/legacy-resource <https://afrinic.net/membership/legacy-resource>) while in the legal case AfriNIC are secretly and hiddenly trying to impose all the adopted policies (that are contractual in RSA) on any legacy resource holder that didn't sign an RSA.


There’s nothing secret or hidden about it, this is the expected result. The policies are mentioned in the RSA, but they are not limited to the RSA. They are the policies set by the community for how AfriNIC is expected to administer the registration of number resources that are under AfriNIC administration as part of a cooperating regional internet registry system.

If you didn’t sign any sort of agreement with AfriNIC, then I question where you think you obtained any sort of entitlement to AfriNIC services whatsoever, let alone entitlement to those services while not complying with the policies by which they are expected to be administered.


> If AfriNIC will win the legal case - it will mean legacy netblocks are no longer legacy, and that there are obligations between legacy resource holders to AfriNIC and that if AfriNIC decide so then they can take legacy netblocks and they can delete them and they will be able to legally decide whatever they will want regarding any legacy netblock.


No sir, you are mistaken here. There has never been any such thing as legacy net blocks. There are only legacy registrations. For the sake of continuity and sane operation of the internet, holders of legacy registrations have generally been allowed to preserve their reservations without contractual obligation on the part of the RIRs. This also means that said resource holders have no obligation to the RIR, but since you’re depending on the RIR doing you a favor to maintain your registration, it seems to me that there’s no obligation on their part to maintain your registration if you refuse to comply with the policies set by the community for managing that registration.


> I also would like to mention one more thing, regarding the statement of AfriNIC CEO to the community on 31th of Janaury 2020: https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/community-discuss/2020-January/003458.html <https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/community-discuss/2020-January/003458.html>

> Regarding the sentence: "We are also ensuring that the current holder/contact of the resources are provided with the opportunity of proving their ownership" - AfriNIC CEO lied to the community here because my email replies to AfriNIC were completely ignored (the reason known to me now is because there was an "email forwarder" set and the replies came from my main email address, with the correspondence of AfriNIC, just like with any "email forwarding" functionality). While on other occasions AfriNIC didn't ignore email messages coming from recipients after "email forwarding”.


There’s just no way to parse that into any sort of actionable information.


> AfriNIC deleted my netblocks that I purchased legally after they lied to the community according to the above sentence, and after they received more than 30+ email notification over a period of years to their "notify:" hostmaster at afrinic.net <mailto:hostmaster at afrinic.net>email address regarding them.


When you say that you purchased these net blocks legally, you’re going to have to clarify what you mean here. Purchased from whom? What process did you go through to transfer the registration rights to those net blocks with the respective RIR? Did you sign a contract with the RIR obligating said RIR to provide you services? Did you pay fees to said RIR in the process? If not, then what makes you think you are entitled to some form of service from said RIR? What contract obligates them to do anything for you?


> Just one more point, nobody in the community is asking regarding all the non-legacy netblocks that were spread over for "free", including /11's ... when there was also a data loss ... only the legacy netblocks of me which I purchased legally and with money (didn't receive for "free") are interesting. I hope that the above will open your eyes.


I won’t resort to name calling or ad hominem, but I will point out that your claim here with no offer of evidence and no proof of legitimacy does bear a striking resemblance to the statements of a certain soon to be former US president.

Owen

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