[Community-Discuss] Notice to all the legacy netblocks holders        in AfriNIC

Noah noah at neo.co.tz
Thu Feb 11 19:50:41 UTC 2021

Hi Wijdane,

To be honest, I could careless about the global consensus of how IPv4
address space is used and what Andrea Cima said about RIPE because AFRINIC
is not RIPE. IANA allocated to AFRINIC and AFRINIC allocated to LIR's
within its region based on need with a justied purpose.

AFRINIC has its own rules and if address space was obtained to number
infrastructure in AFRICA but its instead being traded aka leased for profit
outside AFRICA, that is a different case altogether as it tantamount to
fraud and violations of terms of the RSA.

It's also worth noting that todate, AFRINIC does not have an Inter-RIR
transfer policy because the community in this part of the world has yet to
agree on one.

neo - network engineering and operations

On Thu, Feb 11, 2021 at 10:02 PM Wijdane Goubi <wijdan.goubi at gmail.com>

> Dear community,


> Technically speaking, if a change of the nature is not allowed (as claimed

> by some) this doesn’t make any technical sense at all as there are

> consensus among several RIRs to allow inter RIR transfer and also allows

> intra RIR transfers.


> The logic adopted that the change of nature is not permitted doesn’t sit

> well with the established sections of the policies adopted and used. In

> fact, the logic will bar and limit the ability for an organization to grow

> and expend its services.


> This imposition will also burden the member to go through unnecessary

> bureaucratic demands and expectations whereas the matter could easily be

> resolved. The policy and understanding of business nature needs to be as

> dynamic as the internet is!


> The internet grows and evolves from one form to another, so should the

> policy.

> In fact, RIR never bothers or care with how the space is being used for.


> A post from years ago (

> https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2017/007222.html ), from both

> ARIN and RIPE explained that once the space is issued, their only concern

> is to ensure accurate registration.


> The video and the section where both ARIN and RIPE NCC are speaking can be

> found on the following link:

> https://youtu.be/XBv44KAgFVQlist=PLLJRUWAm1GCZAGzqiCzX2CRU7oqLDC9e5


> At or around 08:27:50, Andrea Cima from RIPE NCC explains that their

> reviews are called “ARC”, and it is to keep in touch and keep the data up

> to data, registry data, that is the contact details and so on.

> Investigation, that is the part of the “fraud”.


> Whereas, at or around 08:29:50, Leslie from ARIN explains the scope of

> their policy, they only audit in fraud cases and only deregister in case of

> fraud.


> Neither the RIPE NCC or ARIN does a re-evaluation of the resources and

> questions on how the LIRs are currently using their resources.


> There is a global consensus on how spaces are being used currently—as long

> as the allocation process was justified and registration is actual, RIR

> does not care about its current usage.

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