[Community-Discuss] Possible Scenarios about the Future of AfriNIC (was: FUNDRAISING & DONATIONS - TO KEEP AFRINIC RUNNING)
Sylvain Baya
abscoco at gmail.com
Wed Aug 18 17:22:13 UTC 2021
{move to a new thread from [*]}
Dear AfriNIC's Community,
...i start this new thread to anticipate more off-topic
emails to come soon under a thread obviously dedicated
to a great *free* initiative of "FUNDRAISING &
DONATIONS - TO KEEP AFRINIC RUNNING".
Please keep it as an opportunity with full right to prosper,
so that our service region could confirm its ability to find
appropriate countermeasures against attacks such as
this one...i recall that a similar situation occured with .AFRICA (the African
DNS TLD)...and maybe someone
like Mr Lucky, or someone with more clue, could share
his own view on perspectives or way forward...of course,
i expect something different to the hasty burial, quoted below :'-(
...someone, on this mailinglist, has already called for an
AU's reaction/intervention...maybe something to dig :-/
The above idea was to requesting a special status for AfriNIC from AU...
...many possibilies exist...if anyone want to share its
own perspective or a practical solution in how to really
save the Internet Numbers Registry System (RFC7020),
right now, under targeted attacks. AfriNIC being only the
first step...
About loans...i see it as a separate alternative or even
a normal one, coming with discounts; but to know if it's
allowed to any member to pay its fees for two or more
years in advance, AfriNIC has to inform us...but, feel
free to get in touch with the Staff to discuss about...
...if i could recall it too: maybe (in parallel with defensive
ones) a more offensive [1] joint action should be
consider the earliest possible. Knowing that, there is a
shared risk in case of a regional Internet shutdown due
to an inability for a regional RIR to maintain its core
registry operations.
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Unfortunately! this "INRs War" is still at its very beginning...so, please:
~°~
*DONATE TO KEEP AFRINIC UP BY CLICKING THIS LINK;*
*https://www.tespok.co.ke/?page_id=14001
<https://www.tespok.co.ke/?page_id=14001>*
~°~
Shalom,
--sb.
Le mer. 18 août 2021 à 8:18 AM, Andrew Alston via Community-Discuss <
community-discuss at afrinic.net> a écrit :
> Not being a lawyer – I would actually like to know the legal position on
> this – because here is the way I see this.
>
>
>
> AfriNIC has a contingent liability on their books of $50m dollars right
> now – and a net worth far below that.
>
> Incurring any further debt – with no guarantee of success in the court
> case – may be classified as reckless trading.
>
>
>
> Furthermore – I would like to know if the directors of AfriNIC have
> complied with their statutory requirements under section 162 of the act –
> which mandates that they call a board meeting to discuss appointing a
> liquidator or administrator. This part of the law – I don’t need a lawyer
> to interpret – because its pretty crystal clear:
>
>
>
> 162. Duty of directors on insolvency
>
> (1) A director of a company who believes that the company is unable to pay
> its debts as they fall due shall forthwith call a meeting of the Board to
> consider whether the Board should appoint a liquidator or an administrator.
>
> (2) Where a meeting is called under this section, the Board shall consider
> whether to appoint a liquidator or an administrator, or to carry on the
> business of the company.
>
> (3) Where –
>
> (a) a director fails to comply with subsection (1);
>
> (b) at the time of that failure the company was unable to pay its debts as
> they fell due; and
>
> (c) the company is subsequently placed in liquidation, 118 the Court may,
> on the application of the liquidator or of a creditor of the company, make
> an order that the director shall be liable for the whole or any part of any
> loss suffered by creditors of the company as a result of the company
> continuing to trade.
>
>
>
>
>
> Since AfriNIC – has on calls with its members – openly admitted that they
> may be unable to service debt and that certain creditors have agreed to
> payment deferrals etc – and since there is absolutely no guarantee that
> sponsorship is going to cover debt – this is very clear – and it will be
> very interesting to see the minutes or the board meeting where this happens.
>
>
>
> I am also very curious to see the resolutions regarding budget, since if
> the company is spending outside of budget – that requires a board
> resolution – which has to be published under the transparency rules. There
> is no way on planet earth that the budget would cover the kinds of legal
> fees they have been racking up – so – how much was the budget expanded –
> and what risks are being taken if spending is being incurred and they lose
> and still have to pay up with the lawyers etc? And how much money is going
> to be left by the time they finish paying the lawyers even if they win this
> – would a settlement not be cheaper at the end of the day?
>
>
>
> Andrew
>
>
>
> *From:* Anthony Ubah <ubah.tonyiyke at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 18, 2021 12:14 AM
> *To:* Dewole Ajao <dewole at tinitop.com>
> *Cc:* General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss at afrinic.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Community-Discuss] FUNDRAISING & DONATIONS - TO KEEP
> AFRINIC RUNNING
>
>
>
> Great idea 👍🏿
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 17, 2021, 2:05 PM Dewole Ajao <dewole at tinitop.com> wrote:
>
> This is a very good initiative. Can the organizers look at making this
> more like a crowdsourced loan? Is this something that's allowable? That
> way, AFRINIC is given interest free loans and then we can figure out how to
> repay the loans in the future.
>
>
>
> For example, I could opt to pay my 2022 and 2023 membership fees in
> advance via this fund (if it can be made official).
>
>
>
> Meanwhile, someone here is asking if an initiative can be launched to
> blackhole traffic from all prefixes globally owned by the people trying to
> force the registry to its knees by starving it of funds?
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Dewole.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 6:47 PM Noah <noah at neo.co.tz> wrote:
>
> Dear Internet Community,
>
> You are probably aware that AFRINIC, the Regional Internet Registry for
> Africa, is involved in ongoing litigation, where the plaintiff has sought
> to have AFRINIC’s bank accounts frozen. In today’s connected world, it is
> easy to abstract the Internet into simply moving bits and bytes, and forget
> that there are real people that work hard at building, maintaining and
> providing support for the systems that you, and the Internet, need to
> continue working and engaging.
>
> The litigation has made it difficult for AFRINIC to meet its financial
> obligations. Part of these expenses are salaries for the AFRINIC team, who
> are resolutely working through this difficult period. Whilst we recognise
> that the legal system has to complete its important process, “our
> colleagues still need to survive” during one of the worst pandemics in
> memory. As an operational entity, that is core to a functioning Internet,
> AFRINIC still has financial obligations that it must meet to its suppliers.
>
> *AF-IX*, in collaboration with our partners, are therefore embarking on a *
> fund-raising exercise* to help keep AFRINIC’s core functions and services
> running for the next three months. As a broader community, we are dependent
> on this registry, whose service of allocating and registering Internet
> Number Resources (IPv4, IPv6 and ASN) has enabled communication for the
> development and growth of the Internet In the African region.
>
>
> *We invite you to be part of the community of supporters to ensure that
> AFRINIC can continue to play the vital role it has, for the sustainable
> digital growth in Africa. *
>
> *You can choose to donate any amount via the URL below where you will find
> all different options. The funds collected will be used to support the
> team by ensuring the core functions of AFRINIC continue without risk. *
> *DONATE TO KEEP AFRINIC UP BY CLICKING THIS LINK;* *https://www.tespok.co.ke/?page_id=14001
> <https://www.tespok.co.ke/?page_id=14001>*
>
>
>
> *The AF-IX is ably supported in this initiative by the below partners; *
> Technology Service Providers of *Kenya* – *TESPOK*
> *Tanzania* ISP Association – *TISPA*
> *Angola* ISP Association – *AAPSI*
> Internet Exchange Point of *Nigeria* – *IXPN*
>
> For additional information, please feel free to contact us, or any of our
> partners through the following email addresses below:
>
> *info at af-ix.net <info at af-ix.net> | tespok at tespok.co.ke
> <tespok at tespok.co.ke> | secretariat at tispa.or.tz
> <secretariat at tispa.or.tz> | secretariado at aapsi.og.ao
> <secretariado at aapsi.og.ao> | info at ixp.net.ng <info at ixp.net.ng>*
>
>
>
> *For Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ), Please visit the Sites Below For
> Details;*
>
>
>
> *TESPOK* = https://www.tespok.co.ke/?page_id=14001
>
> *AF-IX* = https://www.af-ix.net/news/2021/08/afrinic-fundraising-campaign
>
> *TISPA* = https://tispa.or.tz/fundraising/afrinic
>
> *ISPA-Angola* = https://www.aapsi.og.ao/noticia/fundraising-for-afrinic
>
> *IXPN* = https://ixp.net.ng/news/afrinic-fundraising
>
>
>
>
>
> We look forward to your kind support.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> *Noah *
>
> *TISPA*
>
>
> [...]
>
>
>
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