<div dir="auto"><div><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">{move to a new thread from [*]}</span></div><div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12.8px">Dear AfriNIC's Community,</span></font></div><div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12.8px"><br></span></font></div><div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12.8px">...i start this new thread to anticipate more off-topic </span></font></div><div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12.8px">emails to come soon under a thread obviously dedicated </span></font></div><div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12.8px">to a great *free* initiative of "FUNDRAISING & </span></font></div><div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12.8px">DONATIONS - TO KEEP AFRINIC RUNNING".</span></font></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">Please keep it as an opportunity with full right to prosper, </span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">so that our </span><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">service region could confirm its ability to find </span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">appropriate countermeasures against attacks such as </span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">this one...i recall that a similar situation occured with .AFRICA (the </span><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">African DNS TLD)...and maybe someone </span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">like Mr Lucky, </span><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">or someone with more clue, could share </span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">his own view on perspectives or way forward...of course, </span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">i expect </span><span style="font-size:12.8px;font-family:sans-serif">something different to the hasty burial, quoted below :'-(</span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-size:12.8px;font-family:sans-serif"><br></span></div><div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12.8px">...someone, on this mailinglist, has already called for an </span></font></div><div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12.8px">AU's reaction/intervention...maybe something to dig :-/</span></font></div><div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12.8px"><br></span></font></div><div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12.8px">The above idea was to requesting a special status for AfriNIC from AU...</span></font></div><div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12.8px"><br></span></font></div><div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12.8px">...many possibilies exist...if anyone want to share its </span></font></div><div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12.8px">own perspective or a practical solution in how to really </span></font></div><div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12.8px">save the Internet Numbers Registry System (RFC7020), </span></font></div><div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12.8px">right now, under targeted attacks. AfriNIC being only the </span></font></div><div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12.8px">first step...</span></font></div><div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12.8px"><br></span></font></div><div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12.8px">About loans...i see it as a separate alternative or even </span></font></div><div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12.8px">a normal one, coming with discounts; but to know if it's </span></font></div><div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12.8px">allowed to any member to pay its fees for two or more </span></font></div><div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12.8px">years in advance, AfriNIC has to inform us...but, feel </span></font></div><div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12.8px">free to get in touch with the Staff to discuss about... </span></font></div><div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12.8px"><br></span></font></div><div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12.8px">...if i could recall it too: maybe (in parallel with defensive</span></font></div><div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12.8px"> ones) a more offensive [1] joint action should be </span></font></div><div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12.8px">consider the earliest possible. Knowing that, there is a </span></font></div><div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12.8px">shared risk in case of a regional Internet shutdown due </span></font></div><div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12.8px">to an inability for a regional </span></font><span style="font-size:12.8px;font-family:sans-serif">RIR to maintain its core </span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-size:12.8px;font-family:sans-serif">registry operations.</span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-size:12.8px;font-family:sans-serif">__</span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-size:12.8px;font-family:sans-serif">[*]: <</span><font face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12.8px"><a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/community-discuss/2021-August/004761.html" target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/<wbr>pipermail/community-discuss/<wbr>2021-August/004761.html</a></span></font><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">></span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-size:12.8px;font-family:sans-serif">[1]: <</span><font face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12.8px"><a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/community-discuss/2021-August/004731.html" target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/<wbr>pipermail/community-discuss/<wbr>2021-August/004731.html</a></span></font><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">></span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-size:12.8px;font-family:sans-serif"><br></span></div><div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12.8px">Unfortunately! this "INRs War" is still at its very beginning...so, please: </span></font></div><div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12.8px"><br></span></font></div><div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12.8px">~°~</span></font></div><div dir="auto"><div style="font-family:sans-serif" dir="auto"><p><b><span style="color:rgb(204,0,0)">DONATE TO KEEP AFRINIC UP BY CLICKING THIS LINK;</span></b> <b><a href="https://www.tespok.co.ke/?page_id=14001" target="_blank">https://www.tespok.co.ke/?<wbr>page_id=14001</a></b></p></div></div><div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12.8px">~°~</span></font></div><div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12.8px"><br></span></font></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">Shalom, </span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">--sb.</span></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Le mer. 18 août 2021 à 8:18 AM, Andrew Alston via Community-Discuss <<a href="mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">community-discuss@afrinic.net</a><wbr>> a écrit :<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal">Not being a lawyer – I would actually like to know the legal position on this – because here is the way I see this.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">AfriNIC has a contingent liability on their books of $50m dollars right now – and a net worth far below that.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Incurring any further debt – with no guarantee of success in the court case – may be classified as reckless trading.
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<p class="MsoNormal">Furthermore – I would like to know if the directors of AfriNIC have complied with their statutory requirements under section 162 of the act – which mandates that they call a board meeting to discuss appointing a liquidator or administrator.
This part of the law – I don’t need a lawyer to interpret – because its pretty crystal clear:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">162. Duty of directors on insolvency<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">(1) A director of a company who believes that the company is unable to pay its debts as they fall due shall forthwith call a meeting of the Board to consider whether the Board should appoint a liquidator or an administrator.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">(2) Where a meeting is called under this section, the Board shall consider whether to appoint a liquidator or an administrator, or to carry on the business of the company.
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<p class="MsoNormal">(3) Where –<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.5in">(a) a director fails to comply with subsection (1);
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.5in">(b) at the time of that failure the company was unable to pay its debts as they fell due; and<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">(c) the company is subsequently placed in liquidation, 118 the Court may, on the application of the liquidator or of a creditor of the company, make an order that the director shall be liable for the whole or any
part of any loss suffered by creditors of the company as a result of the company continuing to trade.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Since AfriNIC – has on calls with its members – openly admitted that they may be unable to service debt and that certain creditors have agreed to payment deferrals etc – and since there is absolutely no guarantee that sponsorship is going
to cover debt – this is very clear – and it will be very interesting to see the minutes or the board meeting where this happens.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I am also very curious to see the resolutions regarding budget, since if the company is spending outside of budget – that requires a board resolution – which has to be published under the transparency rules. There is no way on planet earth
that the budget would cover the kinds of legal fees they have been racking up – so – how much was the budget expanded – and what risks are being taken if spending is being incurred and they lose and still have to pay up with the lawyers etc? And how much
money is going to be left by the time they finish paying the lawyers even if they win this – would a settlement not be cheaper at the end of the day?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Andrew<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Anthony Ubah <<a href="mailto:ubah.tonyiyke@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">ubah.tonyiyke@gmail.com</a>> <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 18, 2021 12:14 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Dewole Ajao <<a href="mailto:dewole@tinitop.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">dewole@tinitop.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> General Discussions of AFRINIC <<a href="mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">community-discuss@afrinic.net</a><wbr>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Community-Discuss] FUNDRAISING & DONATIONS - TO KEEP AFRINIC RUNNING<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Aug 17, 2021, 2:05 PM Dewole Ajao <<a href="mailto:dewole@tinitop.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">dewole@tinitop.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This is a very good initiative. Can the organizers look at making this more like a crowdsourced loan? Is this something that's allowable? That way, AFRINIC is given interest free loans and then we can figure out how to repay the loans in
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<p class="MsoNormal">For example, I could opt to pay my 2022 and 2023 membership fees in advance via this fund (if it can be made official). <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Meanwhile, someone here is asking if an initiative can be launched to blackhole traffic from all prefixes globally owned by the people trying to force the registry to its knees by starving it of funds?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Regards,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 6:47 PM Noah <<a href="mailto:noah@neo.co.tz" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">noah@neo.co.tz</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dear Internet Community,<br>
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You are probably aware that AFRINIC, the Regional Internet Registry for Africa, is involved in ongoing litigation, where the plaintiff has sought to have AFRINIC’s bank accounts frozen. In today’s connected world, it is easy to abstract the Internet into simply
moving bits and bytes, and forget that there are real people that work hard at building, maintaining and providing support for the systems that you, and the Internet, need to continue working and engaging.<br>
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The litigation has made it difficult for AFRINIC to meet its financial obligations. Part of these expenses are salaries for the AFRINIC team, who are resolutely working through this difficult period. Whilst we recognise that the legal system has to complete
its important process, “our colleagues still need to survive” during one of the worst pandemics in memory. As an operational entity, that is core to a functioning Internet, AFRINIC still has financial obligations that it must meet to its suppliers.<br>
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<b>AF-IX</b>, in collaboration with our partners, are therefore embarking on a <b>
fund-raising exercise</b> to help keep AFRINIC’s core functions and services running for the next three months. As a broader community, we are dependent on this registry, whose service of allocating and registering Internet Number Resources (IPv4, IPv6 and
ASN) has enabled communication for the development and growth of the Internet In the African region.<br>
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<b>We invite you to be part of the community of supporters to ensure that AFRINIC can continue to play the vital role it has, for the sustainable digital growth in Africa.<br>
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<b>You can choose to donate any amount via the URL below where you will find all different options. The funds collected will be used to support the team by ensuring the core functions of AFRINIC continue without risk.<br>
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<b><span style="color:#cc0000">DONATE TO KEEP AFRINIC UP BY CLICKING THIS LINK;</span></b> <b><a href="https://www.tespok.co.ke/?page_id=14001" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.tespok.co.ke/?<wbr>page_id=14001</a></b><u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>The AF-IX is ably supported in this initiative by the below partners; <br>
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Technology Service Providers of <b>Kenya</b> – <b>TESPOK</b><br>
<b>Tanzania</b> ISP Association – <b>TISPA</b><br>
<b>Angola</b> ISP Association – <b>AAPSI</b><br>
Internet Exchange Point of <b>Nigeria</b> – <b>IXPN</b><br>
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For additional information, please feel free to contact us, or any of our partners through the following email addresses below:<br>
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<b><a href="mailto:info@af-ix.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">info@af-ix.net</a> | <a href="mailto:tespok@tespok.co.ke" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">tespok@<wbr>tespok.co.ke</a> | <a href="mailto:secretariat@tispa.or.tz" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">secretariat@<wbr>tispa.or.tz</a> | <a href="mailto:secretariado@aapsi.og.ao" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">secretariado@<wbr>aapsi.og.ao</a> | <a href="mailto:info@ixp.net.ng" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">info@ixp.net.ng</a></b><u></u><u></u></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif;color:black">For Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ), Please visit the Sites Below For Details;</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif;color:black">AF-IX</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif;color:black"> = </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif;color:#205a73"><a href="https://www.af-ix.net/news/2021/08/afrinic-fundraising-campaign" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.af-ix.net/news/<wbr>2021/08/afrinic-fundraising-<wbr>campaign</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif;color:black">TISPA</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif;color:black"> = </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif;color:#205a73"><a href="https://tispa.or.tz/fundraising/afrinic" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://tispa.or.tz/<wbr>fundraising/afrinic</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif;color:#205a73"><a href="https://www.aapsi.og.ao/noticia/fundraising-for-afrinic" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.aapsi.og.ao/<wbr>noticia/fundraising-for-<wbr>afrinic</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif;color:black">IXPN</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif;color:black"> = <a href="https://ixp.net.ng/news/afrinic-fundraising" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://ixp.net.ng/news/<wbr>afrinic-fundraising</a></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif;color:black">We look forward to your kind support.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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