[Community-Discuss] South Africa ISPA Statement on Recent AFRINIC developments

[Omo Oaiya]

Oh, it does!   Apart from the fact that you persist in misrepresenting the
facts, we all know that he who pays the piper dictates the tune,

On Wed, 4 Aug 2021 at 05:08, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:


> I’ve made no secret at any point (since it became the case) of the fact

> that Cloud Innovation is

> one of my clients. Do you routinely tell everyone you talk to who your

> clients are as a matter of

> course?

>

> When asked, I told the truth. Plainly, directly, and immediately.

>

> The fact that I didn’t volunteer the information upon introduction does

> not in any way affect

> the validity or accuracy of what I had to say.

>

> Owen

>

>

> On Aug 3, 2021, at 04:33 , Omo Oaiya <Omo.Oaiya at wacren.net> wrote:

>

> Hello Patrice,

>

> My thanks too.  I understand from your comment that Owen Delong did not

> volunteer this information.

>

> I have read the article.  The fact that Owen did not disclose upfront that

> he was hired by Cloud Innovation makes his opinion less meaningful and

> suspect.   Something you perhaps want to correct so you are not complicit

> in deceiving your readership.

>

> Best wishes,

> Omo

>

>

> On Tue, 3 Aug 2021 at 12:19, Ish Sookun <ish.sookun at lasentinelle.mu>

> wrote:

>

>> Hi Patrice,

>>

>> Thank you. Indeed, your reply helps and it is appreciated.

>>

>> Cheers,

>>

>> --

>> Ish Sookun

>>

>> On Tuesday, 3 August 2021 14:54:45 +04 Patrice Donzelot wrote:

>> > Hi Ish

>> >

>> > As M. Delong mentioned, he told me CI is his company's client. But it

>> was

>> > not mentioned in the first email I got. In a reply, I ask him which

>> > relation he has with CI. I hope it helps.

>> >

>> > Regards

>> > Patrice Donzelot

>> > patrice at defimedia.info

>> > (+230)57864142 / (+230)2070666

>> >

>> > ________________________________

>> > From: Ish Sookun <ish.sookun at lasentinelle.mu>

>> > Sent: Tuesday, 3 August 2021, 11:58

>> > To: Owen DeLong

>> > Cc: Patrice Donzelot; Community Discuss

>> > Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] South Africa ISPA Statement on Recent

>> > AFRINIC developments

>> >

>> > Hi Patrice,

>> >

>> > I am looping you in a discussion thread on the AFRINIC mailing list [1]

>> > which has a public archive.

>> >

>> > As per Owen Delong's below statement, it seems that he didn't conceal

>> that

>> > he is a consultant for Cloud Innovation Ltd and that you « perhaps »

>> chose

>> > not to print that information in the Défimedia [1] article.

>> >

>> > For the sake of transparency, can you tell us whether Owen's

>> professional

>> > relationship with Cloud Innovation Ltd was disclosed to you or not?

>> >

>> > Regards,

>> >

>> > --

>> > Ish Sookun

>> >

>> > [1]

>> https://defimedia.info/litige-qui-menace-internet-laccusateur-contredit-afrinic

>> >

>> > On Tuesday, 3 August 2021 11:03:31 +04 Owen DeLong wrote:

>> > > The fact that Patrice chose not to print it when he paraphrased my

>> remarks

>> > > does not mean that I did not disclose it to him.

>> > >

>> > > You are mistaken in believing that I concealed it or did not tell him.

>> > > Perhaps you should ask him yourself why he did not disclose that CI

>> is one

>> > > of my consulting clients, which is exactly what I told him.

>> > >

>> > > Owen

>> > >

>> > > > On Aug 2, 2021, at 23:30 , Ish Sookun <ish.sookun at lasentinelle.mu>

>> > > > wrote:

>> > > >

>> > > > Hi Owen,

>> > > >

>> > > > On Tuesday, 3 August 2021 07:38:35 +04 Owen DeLong via

>> Community-Discuss

>> > > >

>> > > > wrote:

>> > > >> Under such a circumstance, with so many customers and the company’s

>> > > >> reputation on the line, the decision was made (well above my pay

>> grade)

>> > > >> that it was necessary to pursue legal remedies to protect the

>> company

>> > > >> from

>> > > >> AFRINIC’s unreasonable actions.

>> > > >

>> > > > Don't you think you forgot to mention your affiliation with CI when

>> > > > addressing to the journalist of Défimedia newspaper [1]

>> (Mauritius)? I

>> > > > refer to your>

>> > > >

>> > > > statement:

>> > > >    « Le consultant américain et spécialiste d’internet, Owen DeLong

>> a

>> > > >

>> > > >      également souhaité réagir. Il prend position en faveur de Cloud

>> > > >      Innovation. Dans un courriel adressé au Défi Plus [...] Owen

>> DeLong

>> > > >      estime lui aussi que Cloud Innovation est dans son bon droit. »

>> > > >

>> > > > Don't you think this piece of information was important to the

>> readers,

>> > > > that you are on CI payroll and not an independent American

>> consultant &

>> > > > Internet specialist saying that CI is right?

>> > > >

>> > > > Regards,

>> > > >

>> > > > --

>> > > > Ish Sookun

>> > > >

>> > > > [1]

>> https://defimedia.info/litige-qui-menace-internet-laccusateur-contredit-afrinic

>>

>>

>>

>>

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