[Community-Discuss] The Contract

[Sylvain Baya]

Dear AfriNIC's Community,

Please see my comments below, inline...

Le dim. 1 août 2021 à 5:53 PM, Noah <noah at neo.co.tz> a écrit :


> Hi Sylvain,

>


Hi Noah,
Thanks for your email, brother.



> On Sun, Aug 1, 2021 at 4:19 AM Sylvain Baya <abscoco at gmail.com> wrote:

>

>> Dear AfriNIC's Community,

>>

>> Le vendredi 30 juillet 2021, Ronald F. Guilmette <rfg at tristatelogic.com>

>> a écrit :

>>

>>> In message <

>>> 17af40726bd.c1a468ac340728.5536230081885576908 at africaoncloud.net>,

>>> Paul Wollner <paul.wollner at africaoncloud.net> wrote:

>>>

>>> >I for one call that at this stage, AFRINIC should be seriously looking

>>> into

>>> >ways transition it's service to other RIRs to mitigate the risk that

>>> >they have mentioned today to the press.

>>>

>>> Press?  What press?

>>>

>>> Well, anyway, we can come back to that later.

>>>

>>>

>> Hi Ronald,

>> Thanks for your email, brother!

>>

>>

>>

>>> For now, I just wanted to suggest that before we call the undertaker and

>>> florist and start ordering the funeral arrangements, maybe Paul could

>>> answer a simple question for me...

>>>

>>> Spcifically, I am hoping that Paul may be able to tell us all how Cloud

>>> Innovantion's actions... at least the ones that are not disputed in any

>>> way... comport with the plain language of Section 4(c)(i) of the AFRINIC

>>> Registration Services Agreement (RSA):

>>>

>>>    https://afrinic.net/ast/pdf/services/afrinic-rsa-en-201801.pdf

>>>

>>>

>> ~°~

>> [...]

>> 4. Conditions of service

>> (a) Where a member, receiving service under an existing agreement applies

>> for a change or a variation of the

>> type of such service which AFRINIC has been supplying to it, evaluation

>> of such a “change request” will be effected in

>> terms of the provisions of clause (2) of the present agreement.

>> (b) *Cooperation*:

>> *(i) An applicant receiving service under an agreement is at all times

>> bound to provide to AFRINIC such *

>> *information, assistance and cooperation as may be reasonably required by

>> the latter in the provision *

>> *of the service.*

>> *(ii) Such request for information may also be made where AFRINIC is

>> investigating (reviewing) the *

>> *applicant’s utilisation of the number resources already assigned to it.*

>> (iii) Failure by the applicant, to comply with a request made at above

>> may:

>> *(1) entail revocation or withholding of the service supplied by AFRINIC;*

>>

>

> The above section 4 of the AFRINIC RSA is very important and provides the

> context in sub-section b (i)  and (ii)

>



Exact!
Thanks to enlightening it more.

...it's important that more community
members know the trueth.



>

>> ...Ronald, please, see here [1] for *the purpose* :'-(

>> __

>> [1]: <

>> https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/community-discuss/2021-July/004137.html

>> >

>>

>>

> Others should as well....

>

>


...they are free to disagree though :-)

It only shows that they are organised
to disrupt the RIR system ...




>>

>>> Paul, if you would be so kind, that would be most enlightening.

>>>

>>>

>> ...maybe not him? any other might want to take this

>>  opportunity to try to continue to mis-inform us

>> that the RSA and the Bylaws are not useful documents

>>  for Ressource Members; and that only the CPM is :'-(

>>

>

> Ofcourse Paul would have you believe

>



...my belief is already safe, brother!
No worry!


the Bylaws are not useful yet in the Bylaws section 6 here;

> https://www.afrinic.net/bylaws#b20-6  states clearly that;

>

> 6) *MEMBERSHIP*

> *6.1) Subject to the other provisions of this Article, membership shall be

> open to:*

>

> (i) any Person who is *geographically* *based within,* and *providing

> services in the African region*, and who is engaged in the use of, or *business

> of providing, open system protocol network services; or   *

>

> The AFRINIC RSA agreement comes into play because of the above provision

> so as to cement the relationship between AFRINIC and the Member.

>



Or course! thanks...

...one thing to add is that the very PDP
identify the AfriNIC's Staff to be the
Implementer of the CPM. They obviously
use both the Bylaws, the RSA along side
to the CPM.

Shalom,
--sb.



> Cheers,

> Noah

>

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