[Community-Discuss] Call for AFRINIC’s registry service migration to other RIRs

[Lamiaa Chnayti]

It makes absolute sense to pass a resource transfer policy that gives the
resource members the option of not getting dragged along the risky mess
AFRINIC is putting them through.

But I don’t see the necessity of passing an emergency policy when we
already have a resource transfer policy that has been discussed and has
achieved consensus before, so it only makes sense that the board ratifies
the *AFPUB-2019-V4-003-DRAFT04.*


Best regards,
Lamiaa CHNAYTI



On Sun, 1 Aug 2021 at 13:39, Andrew Alston via Community-Discuss <
community-discuss at afrinic.net> wrote:


> It is my (personal) view that AfriNIC board should exercise their powers

> and pass a transfer policy.

>

> Let those who wish to run the risks of staying with AfriNIC through this

> situation do so - let those who choose not to accept the risk profile

> transfer out - problem solved.

>

> It is entirely within the boards powers to pass emergency policy which the

> community can revoke at the next pdp should they wish to do so - and if

> AfriNIC has the support claimed by members of this list there is absolutely

> zero risk in this approach.

>

> Furthermore - such an approach would also remove the possibility of other

> legal action which may be taken against them on grounds removed from the

> current legal situation

>

> I remind everyone that AfriNIC has a duty to act in the interests of its

> members - and AfriNIC has repeatedly stated in the press - and has been

> echoed by various ISP associations that there is risk here - it should

> therefore stand that AfriNIC provide members with a way to mitigate said

> risk if it is within their powers to do so

>

> Again - a personal view - and again - I explicitly will not comment on the

> merits or demerits of this case - since I believe that the legal system

> should run its course and be the final arbiter of what is correct in this

> situation.  In fact I find the amount of legal posturing on this list to be

> nothing short of bizarre - let the courts do their work - but let members

> mitigate their risks as they see fit

>

>

> Andrew

>

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> *From:* Taiwo Oye <taiwo.oyewande88 at gmail.com>

> *Sent:* Sunday, August 1, 2021 3:00:32 PM

> *To:* Paul Wollner <paul.wollner at africaoncloud.net>

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> *Subject:* Re: [Community-Discuss] Call for AFRINIC’s registry service

> migration to other RIRs

>

> Good day all,

>

> I think paul made some sense in his first statement (tho the statement has

> been watered down now).

>

> If afrinic is in a financial fix or in a state where it is tending towards

> a financial situation where it can no longer perform its duties, it is only

> right to start weighing all viable options to keep the registry afloat.

> Paul made a suggestion - tho a bit aggressively - about the NRO coming to

> save the region.

> I will like the community to see this as “option 1”.

>

> Does any other community member have any better suggestion in the (not so

> likely) situation that afrinic does not have the financial capability to

> carry out its duties?

>

> If so, please lay them out for discussion amongst the community members.

>

> If not, Option 1 remains the only alternative to cushion the effect of the

> financial breakdown.

>

> That being said. I think we should think in the direction of way forward

> and have a plan ready rather than crucifying Paul for being proactive.

>

> On Aug 1, 2021, at 11:01, Paul Wollner <paul.wollner at africaoncloud.net>

> wrote:

>

> 

>

> Hello community

>

> I think I  misused the word “take over” to spike some unfortunate

> sentiments.

>

> Let me try this again:

> In the interest of internet continuity, another RIR should help AFRINIC

> (by staff or infrastructure), to perform it’s core registration service

> function for the time being, until all AFRINIC litigation has been sorted

> to avoid disruption to our African end users and businesses.

>

> Regards

> Paul

>

>

>

> ---- On Thu, 29 Jul 2021 23:38:32 +0200 *Paul Wollner

> <paul.wollner at africaoncloud.net <paul.wollner at africaoncloud.net>>* wrote

> ----

>

> Apologies for the duplicate post, but the initial posting was too large.

>

> The concerns expressed by TISPA, as well as other concerned parties and

> especially by AFRINIC's  own admission in the news outlet lexpress.mu,

> which is available at https://ibb.co/tmWCk0k, regarding the AFRINIC’s

> inability to keep providing its core registry functions due to its

> inability to meet its financial requirements.

>

> I suggest that in order not hold end users, ISPs and any other business's

> hostage, for the interest of continue service of AFRINIC’s core registry

> service, we should urgently call for NRO fulfil their responsibility as

> well as commitment to the global internet to take over AFRINIC’s

> registration service for the time being, until litigation is settled some

> time later. (

> https://www.nro.net/accountability/rir-accountability/joint-rir-stability-fund/

> )

>

> That way, no end user or business will ever impacted however results come

> out of litigation.

>

> Regards

> Paul Wollner

>

>

>

>

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