[Community-Discuss] Fwd: AFRINIC-31 Meeting

[Mark Tinka]

Thanks, Andrew.

Makes sense to me, but only if both the brokers and the interested RIR
members abide by these rules.

What I see more likely happening is either side finds this opt-in/out
ineffective. If we somehow block the spamming and can control who
attends the meetings, they'll just sidebar all their meetings in and
around the conference venue, which we definitely cannot control.

So for me, making sure the community fully understands this at an
intellectual, commercial (and if possible, legal) level is our best
defence at making sure nobody is duped into doing something they don't
understand or don't really want to do.

Mark.

On 17/Nov/19 10:41, Andrew Alston wrote:

> Personally I have another take on this -

>

> I do not agree with spam - or harvesting emails - period - so will

> start there.

>

> I do however think that it may be worth considering an opt in/opt out

> list for attendees of AfriNIC meetings where people who wish to

> promote services or give general information about what they are doing

> etc may be worth having.

>

> This creates a situation where it avoids to the spam, it’s opt in so

> people who do want to see services on offer by attendees have the

> option of subscribing, and it lets the community market their services

> to each other.  I would have no issue with the existence of such a list.

>

> Just a thought

>

> Andrew 

>

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> *From:* Mark Tinka <mark.tinka at seacom.mu>

> *Sent:* Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:32:27 PM

> *To:* community-discuss at afrinic.net <community-discuss at afrinic.net>

> *Subject:* Re: [Community-Discuss] Fwd: AFRINIC-31 Meeting

>  

> I'm not sure stopping them from attending is possible, as that can be

> easily forged.

>

> I'm also not sure preventing them from reaching out to the community

> for their business is also feasible.

>

> The only real defence that I see is equipping the community with

> sufficient knowledge about this so folk are not easily swayed by the

> glorious promises of engaging with them.

>

> Mark.

>

> On 16/Nov/19 17:20, Sami Salih wrote:

>>

>> if we all agreed that the reasons they want to attend AFRINIC is not

>> welcoming, can we be more proactive and stop them from attending or

>> at least stop them from conveying the message to the community ?  

>>

>>

>> *Dr. Sami H.O. Salih*

>> Assistant Prof, School of Electronics Engineering, SUST

>> Head of R&D, NTC, SUDAN

>> President of SDv6TF

>> T/F: (249)122045707/187171355

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>> *From:* Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> <mailto:owen at delong.com>

>> *Sent:* Saturday, November 16, 2019 12:02 AM

>> *To:* Badru Ntege <badru.ntege at nftconsult.com>

>> <mailto:badru.ntege at nftconsult.com>

>> *Cc:* General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss at afrinic.net>

>> <mailto:community-discuss at afrinic.net>; members-discuss at afrinic.net

>> <mailto:members-discuss at afrinic.net> <members-discuss at afrinic.net>

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>> *Subject:* Re: [Community-Discuss] Fwd: AFRINIC-31 Meeting

>>  

>> The best solution is simply to make sure to avoid doing business with

>> them. Eventually they get the hint, especially if you tell them flat

>> out that you don’t do business with spammers.

>>

>> Owen

>>

>>

>>> On Nov 15, 2019, at 09:49 , Badru Ntege <badru.ntege at nftconsult.com

>>> <mailto:badru.ntege at nftconsult.com>> wrote:

>>>

>>> I agree with you on the bad taste. 

>>>

>>> Have many words to add but time to breathe in and out and constrain

>>> oneself 

>>>

>>> Sent from my iPhone

>>>

>>> On 15 Nov 2019, at 12:26, Mark Tinka <mark.tinka at seacom.mu

>>> <mailto:mark.tinka at seacom.mu>> wrote:

>>>

>>>> Not sure if anyone else has received these...

>>>>

>>>> I am probably old school, but these kinds of things leave a bad

>>>> taste in my mouth.

>>>>

>>>> Mark.

>>>>

>>>> -------- Forwarded Message --------

>>>> Subject: 	AFRINIC-31 Meeting

>>>> Date: 	Fri, 15 Nov 2019 09:18:52 +0000

>>>> From: 	Lena AFRINIC <lena at breeden-comm.com>

>>>> <mailto:lena at breeden-comm.com>

>>>> To: 	mark.tinka at seacom.mu <mailto:mark.tinka at seacom.mu>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Greetings,

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Hope this email finds you well!

>>>>

>>>> I'm representing IPv4 Services, a registered broker in RIPE, ARIN

>>>> and APNIC. We are attending at AFRINIC 31 in Luanda, Angola, and

>>>> would be a pleasure to meet people that are open to a potential

>>>> collaboration regarding IPv4 resources.

>>>>

>>>> We are planning to establish new connections and find AFRINIC based

>>>> business partners for selling/leasing/purchase of IPv4 addresses.

>>>>

>>>> NOTE - if you are interested please feel free to contact me with

>>>> any questions.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> See you at the event.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>>

>>>> Kind regards,

>>>>

>>>> Elena Dontu

>>>>

>>>>  

>>>>

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>>>>

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>>>>

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>>>>

>>>> web: ipv4services.com <http://ipv4services.com/> 

>>>>

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