[Community-Discuss] The Looting of AFRINIC

[Sunday Folayan]

Good points Jordi, and thanks for the throwback on the very many amazing 
sacrifices we all made, to grow the Internet in Africa.

I will resist asking Ernest to defend himself here, We are not 
constituted as a competent jury, neither do we want to compromise the 
ongoing investigations.

Questions are appropriate, so will be his own admissions or rebuttals, 
when the investigations are completed.

I may be wrong, but that is my own expectations and position.

Sunday.

On 06/12/2019 10:04, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss wrote:

>

> Hi Sunday, all,

>

> I’ve been in “internal conflict” myself, since I read the article. Let 

> me tell why.

>

> I met Ernest the first time around 2005, if I recall correctly. My 

> first AFRINIC meeting was AFRINIC-2 in Maputo, Mozambique, and shortly 

> after, during an ITU meeting in Geneva, Adiel asked me if I could 

> contribute to the AFRINIC community coming to the next meetings and 

> joining Ernest in his trips to do the Registration Services training 

> so I do IPv6 trainings.

>

> Sunday for sure can remember that when going for a training to Lagos, 

> I was deported back to my country, because a mess created by the 

> Madrid Nigerian consulate and thanks to the quick reaction from 

> Sunday, I could resolve that on the next day and flight again to do 

> the training.

>

> My immediate response was, of course, I will be very happy doing that, 

> and since them I lost tract in how many African countries, I’ve been 

> doing those trainings and how many thousands of brothers have been 

> able to take advantage of that.

>

> The relevance of that is clear. I’d a close relation with Ernest (as 

> well as with many other staff from all the RIRs). Traveling so much 

> together, you get to know people, and we are talking here about almost 

> 15 years. Of course, you may get a wrong impression, we all may have a 

> hidden face. As humans, we all have positive and negative things. But 

> I’m really shocked, I still resist to believe it.

>

> I also believe that he is a smart guy. So, put yourself in the 

> position of a smart guy that want to do something bad. Do you think 

> you will use your own name for registering companies, or instead you 

> will bribe someone, may be a friend (but not family) to avoid your 

> family name to appear in any documents? I feel this is really silly 

> and non-understandable. So maybe somebody used him, which doesn’t mean 

> he is still guilty “in vigilando” because he trusted anyone else, or 

> something similar.

>

> Do we believe in “presumption of innocence”? I do, despite documents. 

> If you don’t know the complete background, documents may not be enough.

>

> So, I will like to request to Ernest, to provide a clear explanation, 

> and may be publicly recognize what (if any) have been his mistakes and 

> involvement an all this.

>

> Note that I’m not here defending anyone. I’ve no any personal 

> interest. My only interest is to know the **real true** and I’m sure 

> everybody agrees on that.

>

> Note also that I’ve no doubts that the documents may be authentic, so 

> no doubt about the good work and investigation done by Ronald and very 

> thankful for that.

>

> Regards,

>

> Jordi

>

> @jordipalet

>

> El 5/12/19 20:02, "Sunday Folayan" <sfolayan at gmail.com 

> <mailto:sfolayan at gmail.com>> escribió:

>

> It is a shame that the system was exploited. I did not in anyway 

> suggest that the malfeasance be ignored, or that we should focus only 

> on legacy space.

>

> The community has been informed that there is already some internal 

> investigations ongoing. We should give AFRINIC the time to get things 

> done. I equally expect that if criminal actions and intentions are 

> established, the law should take its course and people should stand 

> accountable for their deeds.

>

> I query the suitability of a system, where existing or moribund 

> organizations' IP resources are stolen/hijacked/leased for upwards of 

> 7 years, and it took this level of cross-border investigations to 

> discover the manipulations. If the resources are indeed not needed or 

> in active use, why would or should they not have been returned to the 

> Registry for the common good?

>

> For those whose resources were stolen or hijacked, I expect their 

> legal department will be pursuing the hijackers/traders/users with 

> gusto by now.

>

> While appreciating the whistle blower(s) for a job well done on behalf 

> of the entire community, Instead of running a mob-justice system here, 

> with the assurance that justice will be served, the community should 

> rather apply its mind on how to make sure that IP resources are 

> available for developing the continent. That will be a better use of 

> our time and intellect.

>

> Sunday.

>

> On 05/12/2019 1:46 PM, Mike Silber wrote:

>

>     Be that as it may - that seems to ignore the fact that there

>     appears to have been significant malfeasance regarding non-legacy

>     space.

>

>     I just want to ensure that we maintain a balanced view of the

>     problem and not deflect it to focus only on the legacy space issue.

>

>     It terms of priorities - it would make sense to me to focus on how

>     space that should have been subject to the RSA has been

>     mis-appropriated and then turn to the more difficult question of

>     legacy space. If the current processes are open to abuse, then

>     moving legacy space under those processes may not have the desired

>     outcome.

>

>     Mike

>

>

>

>         On 5 Dec 2019, at 14:27, Mark Tinka <mark.tinka at seacom.mu

>         <mailto:mark.tinka at seacom.mu>> wrote:

>

>         Completely agree with Sunday.

>

>         Mark.

>

>         On 5/Dec/19 13:02, Sunday Folayan wrote:

>

>             Isn't it time to address Legacy space issues, specifically

>             ancient squatters on spaces meant to develop the Internet

>             in Africa, AfriNIC Services and bringing legacy spaces

>             under some form of RSA?

>

>             I urge the community to think beyond the sensation and let

>             us see how to help and empower the people doing useful

>             work for Africa.

>

>             Thanks.

>

>             Sunday.

>

>             On 04/12/2019 6:23 PM, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote:

>

>                 I hope you all will take the time to read and think

>                 about the following

>                 news story.

>

>                 https://mybroadband.co.za/news/internet/330379-how-internet-resources-worth-r800-million-were-stolen-and-sold-on-the-black-market.html

>

>                   I will have more to say about this in due course. 

>                 For the moment, I only

>                 wish to say that the investigation undertaken by

>                 myself and Jan Vermeulen

>                 is ongoing, and that many others are provably involved.

>                     Regards,

>                 rfg

>

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