[Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Faulty result for Western Africa in AfriNIC AGMM Elections

[Noah]

On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 1:03 PM, Mark Elkins <mje at posix.co.za> wrote:

> The AfriNIC meeting is primarily for its membership though the community
> is included - they (the community) are potential (paying) membership. Its
> certainly paid for by its membership and not the (non-membership part of)
> community.
>
We normally have atleast 3 individuals from my employer who attend both
AfriNIC meetings and they form part of the membership and community. Same
is true with most members who send part of their staff to this meetings and
they form the entire community.

Dont attempt to separate the two please because they are the same.

You don't need to know how AfriNIC works in order to use the Internet.
>

Your point being...

So can we start seeing AfNOG removing all fees please at their meetings?
> Everyone should be freely (as in - no cost)  allowed to attend the training
> sessions.
>
This is ridiculous.

The delegates the AfNOG trains are mostly people who work for AfriNIC
members. My employer does send our staff to AfNOG trainings and some of us
also volunteer to train and transfer knowledge to delegates who mostly are
part of the engineering work-force of some AfriNIC member.

So dont talk unless you know what you are taking about.


>
>
> On 18/05/2018 11:54, Badru Ntege wrote:
>
> Mark
>
> I see we are starting to divide the haves and have nots.  The internet is
> for everyone regardless of how deep your pockets are.
>
> Let’s remember that the big privileged members sell services to the
> community who are the real owners of AfriNIC.
>
> What I see now is these privileged owners wanting to claim ownership and
> saying the poor should not be allowed in.
>
> Africa is not North America  nor is it Europe or Asia.  It’s Africa with
> its unique challenges. Let’s stop these  comparisons.
>
> Regards.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 18 May 2018, at 12:36, Mark Elkins <mje at posix.co.za> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 18/05/2018 11:07, Ben Roberts wrote:
>
> Noah,
>
> So its pointless to have a nomcom in other-words
>
>
> It may not be pointless to have a nomcom but they certainly can run better
> elections.
>
>
> NomCom this year had a bad deal. I'm not sure that had NomCom been made up
> of any other people, whether it would have made any difference.
> They were aboard the Titanic - they just didn't know it.
>
>
> AfriNIC will be wasting members money to conduct elections which involves
> facilitating members of nomcom to fly to meetings to conduct elections
> where no candidate is elected.
>
>
> Yes one of the ways that Afrinic wastes lots of money flying people
> around. This contributes to why our fees are so high compared to other RIRs
> we are in.
>
>
> Regarding Money and Meetings.
>
> I would like to propose to the community and membership that AfriNIC
> meetings are no longer free to attend - that we introduce a badge fee of
> (say) US$100 in order to acquire the badge. However, I believe Members
> (Registered, Associative and Resource alike) should be provided with free
> tickets (up to two for Resource organisations, otherwise one voucher per
> Registered or Associated) at the time of filling in their advanced
> registration. Sponsors should also get up to two vouchers. Registered
> speakers (and staff) should also get a voucher. If you Register at the
> event or don't have a voucher - you pay the $100.
>
> At Dakar, I noticed a huge amount of well dressed local people - that
> arrived in rooms just before lunch vouchers were issues - and who
> disappeared after lunch. I don't see why AfriNIC should have to feed the
> free-loaders. This would have saved quite a bit.
>
> This was discussed on the Board around 4 to 5 years ago but we thought we
> could manage. I think it now needs to be re-introduced.
> I know you have to pay to go to RIPE - and I presume other RIR meetings?
>
> Comments? (Preferably from people who were at the Dakar meeting and who
> saw this happening)
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 18 May 2018, at 09:41, Noah <noah at neo.co.tz> wrote:
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 5:38 PM, Ben Roberts <
> Ben.Roberts at liquidtelecom.com> wrote:
>
>> All,
>> The election was run and winner declared. Majority of votes cast to have
>> none of the candidates join the board.
>>
>
> So its pointless to have a nomcom in other-words and therefore AfriNIC
> will be wasting members money to conduct elections which involves
> facilitating members of nomcom to fly to meetings to conduct elections
> where no candidate is elected.
>
> Come on folks...
>
> Noah
>
>
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