[Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

Tue Apr 17 07:52:35 UTC 2018

Indeed! The interconnectivity of networks that makes up the Internet would
make a literal interpretation of GDPR impractical or at least
unimplementable hence a more focused scope of interpretation/application is
required which only the DPAs can provide.

Regards
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Kindly excuse brevity and typos

On Tue, Apr 17, 2018, 8:37 AM Mike Silber <silber.mike at gmail.com> wrote:

> EU citizens, EU residents, potentially even visitors to the EU (on
> anything more than a transitory basis).
>
> Still waiting for DPAs to make specific rules.
>
> In the absence of those specific rules - everything else is conjecture.
>
> > On 16 Apr 2018, at 22:34, Jordi Palet Martinez via Community-Discuss <
> community-discuss at afrinic.net> wrote:
> >
> > Even simpler than that. The registration of emails of EU citizens in
> this exploder or in the next AfriNIC meeting.
> >
> > Emails are personal data.
> >
> >
> >> El 16 abr 2018, a las 21:15, zeimm at auladin.com escribió:
> >>
> >> Hi Arsene,
> >>
> >> The GDPR applies for data protection for all EU citizens.
> >>
> >> If, for example an EU citizen is the  contact person for a range of IP
> >> addresses provided by Afrinic, then Afrinic needs to ensure this data (
> >> contact details of EU person) meet GDPR obligations, namely, that is has
> >> taken measures to safeguard access to the data and that the data is kept
> >> encrypted.
> >>
> >> If it can prove those 2 processes, then it cannot be fined.
> >>
> >> This is my understanding of the GDPR changes.
> >>
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >> Zeimm.
> >>
> >>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> Message: 1
> >>> Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 10:39:35 +0200
> >>> From: Ars?ne Tungali <arsenebaguma at gmail.com>
> >>> To: wafa DAHMANI <wafa at ati.tn>
> >>> Cc: S Moonesamy <sm+afrinic at elandsys.com>, General Discussions of
> >>>   AFRINIC <community-discuss at afrinic.net>
> >>> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR
> >>> Message-ID:
> >>>   <CABDXvWo+OceTzO0SCqcP9dyQfd2FiYELr6gXKcKu7oUaC6mkgg at mail.gmail.com>
> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >>>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> My apologies if i am too alarmant on this or if i am misunderstanding
> this
> >>> issue.
> >>>
> >>> Please consider my message on this as a request from a community
> member to
> >>> be assured that we are okay and have nothing to worry about.
> >>>> From your message, Wafa, i hope i can be at peace with regards to
> Afrinic
> >>> and the GDPR because it is that simple from your perspective.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Arsene
> >>>
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> >>> 2018-04-15 9:37 GMT+02:00 wafa DAHMANI <wafa at ati.tn>:
> >>>
> >>>> Dear all,
> >>>>
> >>>> I think there are some misunderstandings of the issue
> >>>> By the way under which laws there will be fines imposed on AFRINIC
> after
> >>>> the 25th ???? does AFRINIC have subsidiary company in EU area ??
> >>>> I think things are more simplier for AFRINIC
> >>>> AFRINIC has just to declare that as company is fully respecting  data
> >>>> privacy and should appoint a senior responsible for assuring that all
> >>>> mecanisms implemebted treating personal
> >>>> data comply with data privacy issues for example AFRINIC should
> >>>> ISO27001
> >>>> certified and had a Security Officer (which is mandatory to be
> ISO27001
> >>>> certified).
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Best
> >>>> Wafa
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ------------------------------
> >>>> *De: *"Ars?ne Tungali" <arsenebaguma at gmail.com>
> >>>> *?: *"Mike Silber" <silber.mike at gmail.com>
> >>>> *Cc: *"S Moonesamy" <sm+afrinic at elandsys.com>,
> >>>> community-discuss at afrinic.net
> >>>> *Envoy?: *Samedi 14 Avril 2018 11:18:22
> >>>> *Objet: *Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Apr 14, 2018, at 7:45 AM, Mike Silber <silber.mike at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> My expectation is that the org confirms that is has performed a
> thorough
> >>>> evaluation and believe any risks have been mitigated.
> >>>>
> >>>> Exactly!
> >>>>
> >>>> If fines are to be imposed on AFRINIC (past May 25th) simply because
> >>>> there
> >>>> was less care taken upfront in dealing with this issue, then it will
> be
> >>>> a
> >>>> total mess.
> >>>>
> >>>> AFRINIC members need to look closely at this since they might be the
> >>>> ones
> >>>> paying!
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sat, 14 Apr 2018 at 00:18, S Moonesamy <sm+afrinic at elandsys.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi Arsene,
> >>>>> At 07:48 AM 13-04-2018, Arsene Tungali wrote:
> >>>>>> Reading this thread, I am still awaiting an official statement from
> >>>>>> the Board telling us that AFRINIC is safe and at this stage is in
> >>>>>> compliance with GDPR when it gets into enforcement next month. Or
> >>>>>> maybe did i miss that one?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> There was a message at
> >>>>> https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/community-discuss/
> >>>>> 2018-April/002093.html
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I am not a EU citizen nor do I live in any EU country but i do care
> >>>>>> very much about privacy issues in terms of the way WHOIS handles
> >>>>> personal data.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I suggest sending an email to contact at afrinic.net if you have
> >>>>> questions about the above as I would not know how that works for you
> >>>>> given that we do not reside in the same country.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Regards,
> >>>>> S. Moonesamy
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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