<div dir="auto">Indeed! The interconnectivity of networks that makes up the Internet would make a literal interpretation of GDPR impractical or at least unimplementable hence a more focused scope of interpretation/application is required which only the DPAs can provide.<div dir="auto"><br>Regards<br><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" dir="auto">Sent from my mobile<br>Kindly excuse brevity and typos</div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, Apr 17, 2018, 8:37 AM Mike Silber <<a href="mailto:silber.mike@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">silber.mike@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">EU citizens, EU residents, potentially even visitors to the EU (on anything more than a transitory basis).<br>
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Still waiting for DPAs to make specific rules.<br>
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In the absence of those specific rules - everything else is conjecture.<br>
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> On 16 Apr 2018, at 22:34, Jordi Palet Martinez via Community-Discuss <<a href="mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">community-discuss@afrinic.net</a>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> Even simpler than that. The registration of emails of EU citizens in this exploder or in the next AfriNIC meeting.<br>
> <br>
> Emails are personal data.<br>
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>> El 16 abr 2018, a las 21:15, <a href="mailto:zeimm@auladin.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">zeimm@auladin.com</a> escribió:<br>
>> <br>
>> Hi Arsene,<br>
>> <br>
>> The GDPR applies for data protection for all EU citizens.<br>
>> <br>
>> If, for example an EU citizen is the contact person for a range of IP<br>
>> addresses provided by Afrinic, then Afrinic needs to ensure this data (<br>
>> contact details of EU person) meet GDPR obligations, namely, that is has<br>
>> taken measures to safeguard access to the data and that the data is kept<br>
>> encrypted.<br>
>> <br>
>> If it can prove those 2 processes, then it cannot be fined.<br>
>> <br>
>> This is my understanding of the GDPR changes.<br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> Best regards,<br>
>> Zeimm.<br>
>> <br>
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>>> Message: 1<br>
>>> Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 10:39:35 +0200<br>
>>> From: Ars?ne Tungali <<a href="mailto:arsenebaguma@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">arsenebaguma@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>> To: wafa DAHMANI <<a href="mailto:wafa@ati.tn" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">wafa@ati.tn</a>><br>
>>> Cc: S Moonesamy <<a href="mailto:sm%2Bafrinic@elandsys.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">sm+afrinic@elandsys.com</a>>, General Discussions of<br>
>>> AFRINIC <<a href="mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">community-discuss@afrinic.net</a>><br>
>>> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR<br>
>>> Message-ID:<br>
>>> <<a href="mailto:CABDXvWo%2BOceTzO0SCqcP9dyQfd2FiYELr6gXKcKu7oUaC6mkgg@mail.gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">CABDXvWo+OceTzO0SCqcP9dyQfd2FiYELr6gXKcKu7oUaC6mkgg@mail.gmail.com</a>><br>
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>>> <br>
>>> Hi,<br>
>>> <br>
>>> My apologies if i am too alarmant on this or if i am misunderstanding this<br>
>>> issue.<br>
>>> <br>
>>> Please consider my message on this as a request from a community member to<br>
>>> be assured that we are okay and have nothing to worry about.<br>
>>>> From your message, Wafa, i hope i can be at peace with regards to Afrinic<br>
>>> and the GDPR because it is that simple from your perspective.<br>
>>> <br>
>>> Regards,<br>
>>> Arsene<br>
>>> <br>
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>>> - AFRISIG 2016 <<a href="http://afrisig.org/afrisig-2016/class-of-2016/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://afrisig.org/afrisig-2016/class-of-2016/</a>> - Blogger<br>
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>>> <br>
>>> Check the *2016 State of Internet Freedom in DRC* report (English<br>
>>> <<a href="http://cipesa.org/?wpfb_dl=234" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://cipesa.org/?wpfb_dl=234</a>>) and (French<br>
>>> <<a href="http://cipesa.org/?wpfb_dl=242" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://cipesa.org/?wpfb_dl=242</a>>)<br>
>>> <br>
>>> 2018-04-15 9:37 GMT+02:00 wafa DAHMANI <<a href="mailto:wafa@ati.tn" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">wafa@ati.tn</a>>:<br>
>>> <br>
>>>> Dear all,<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> I think there are some misunderstandings of the issue<br>
>>>> By the way under which laws there will be fines imposed on AFRINIC after<br>
>>>> the 25th ???? does AFRINIC have subsidiary company in EU area ??<br>
>>>> I think things are more simplier for AFRINIC<br>
>>>> AFRINIC has just to declare that as company is fully respecting data<br>
>>>> privacy and should appoint a senior responsible for assuring that all<br>
>>>> mecanisms implemebted treating personal<br>
>>>> data comply with data privacy issues for example AFRINIC should<br>
>>>> ISO27001<br>
>>>> certified and had a Security Officer (which is mandatory to be ISO27001<br>
>>>> certified).<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> Best<br>
>>>> Wafa<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> ------------------------------<br>
>>>> *De: *"Ars?ne Tungali" <<a href="mailto:arsenebaguma@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">arsenebaguma@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>>> *?: *"Mike Silber" <<a href="mailto:silber.mike@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">silber.mike@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>>> *Cc: *"S Moonesamy" <<a href="mailto:sm%2Bafrinic@elandsys.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">sm+afrinic@elandsys.com</a>>,<br>
>>>> <a href="mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">community-discuss@afrinic.net</a><br>
>>>> *Envoy?: *Samedi 14 Avril 2018 11:18:22<br>
>>>> *Objet: *Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> On Apr 14, 2018, at 7:45 AM, Mike Silber <<a href="mailto:silber.mike@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">silber.mike@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> My expectation is that the org confirms that is has performed a thorough<br>
>>>> evaluation and believe any risks have been mitigated.<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> Exactly!<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> If fines are to be imposed on AFRINIC (past May 25th) simply because<br>
>>>> there<br>
>>>> was less care taken upfront in dealing with this issue, then it will be<br>
>>>> a<br>
>>>> total mess.<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> AFRINIC members need to look closely at this since they might be the<br>
>>>> ones<br>
>>>> paying!<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> On Sat, 14 Apr 2018 at 00:18, S Moonesamy <<a href="mailto:sm%2Bafrinic@elandsys.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">sm+afrinic@elandsys.com</a>><br>
>>>> wrote:<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>>> Hi Arsene,<br>
>>>>> At 07:48 AM 13-04-2018, Arsene Tungali wrote:<br>
>>>>>> Reading this thread, I am still awaiting an official statement from<br>
>>>>>> the Board telling us that AFRINIC is safe and at this stage is in<br>
>>>>>> compliance with GDPR when it gets into enforcement next month. Or<br>
>>>>>> maybe did i miss that one?<br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> There was a message at<br>
>>>>> <a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/community-discuss/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/community-discuss/</a><br>
>>>>> 2018-April/002093.html<br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>>> I am not a EU citizen nor do I live in any EU country but i do care<br>
>>>>>> very much about privacy issues in terms of the way WHOIS handles<br>
>>>>> personal data.<br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> I suggest sending an email to <a href="mailto:contact@afrinic.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">contact@afrinic.net</a> if you have<br>
>>>>> questions about the above as I would not know how that works for you<br>
>>>>> given that we do not reside in the same country.<br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> Regards,<br>
>>>>> S. Moonesamy<br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> <br>
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