[Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Annual Financial Statements 2016

[McTim]

Hi Badru,

To be absolutely pedantic, the dues paying Members elect the Board,
not the "Community", where the Community = fee payers+ interested
parties.

For the purpose of policy making, we are all equal.  For the purpose
of asking questions regarding financial matters, I believe the fee
paying folks have greater standing.

just my 2 bob,

McTim

On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 12:08 PM, Badru Ntege
<badru.ntege at nftconsult.com> wrote:
> Chair
>
> With all due respect the list of questions in a way underpin my worry.  In a
> bottom up environment we are all equal and the board and organization serve
> the community.
>
> For clarity the community elects the board,  the then board hires the CEO
> who then hires the staff so community communications goes to board and
> chair.
>
> CEO has a dual roll of being staff and board member and thus his right to
> respond directly to comments.
>
> In my understanding CEO can also authorize staff to respond to issues if he
> so wishes.
>
> Should you respond to all queries ?? I personally think responding to some
> and ignoring others could be taken wrongly by the individual who raises what
> they think is a pertinent issue.
>
> Why my concern ??  I think over the last few months many comments have been
> ignored or answered after prompt from the sender.
>
> On a number of occasions like bellow we have been given information which
> turns out to be wrong. Like the issue raised about recovered resources.
>
> I'm sure I need not go further. It just seems community is becoming a
> nuisance to you at times which is unfortunate. And I read this from your
> email above and the questions paused
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 16 Jun 2017, at 18:32, Sunday Folayan <sfolayan at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Badru,
>
> Kindly explain or clarify the gap you have observed, so we can correct this.
>
> I believe to the best of my ability that as chair and on behalf of the
> Board, I have engaged on matters directed at us, even when they clearly
> border on operational issues.
>
> It would also be helpful if you further confirm one or more of these to help
> me see how to lead the board to intervene so as to improve things:
>
> 1. Should Board and staff respond to all issues, and are they obliged to do
> so?
>
> 2. Should Chair or CEO acknowledge all questions and routes to an
> appropriate person?
>
> 3. Chair or CEO acknowledges all posts and provides an estimated response
> time?.
>
> 4. Should members explicitly address chair or CEO in discussions instead of
> "can someone respond?"
>
> 5. Should members directly write Afrinic instead of posting urgent questions
> on the mailing lists?
>
> 6. Should Afrinic policy liaison monitors the lists and brings noteworthy or
> urgent issues to the attention of the CEO as the case may be?
>
> 7. Should the chair always respond to all operational issues or extract
> answers from the CEO and relay?
>
> 8. Are you addressing Chair, Board, Staff or all?
>
> It is important that I get you right. What do you suggest?
>
> Thanks
>
> Sunday.
>
>
>
>
> On Jun 16, 2017 12:30, "Badru Ntege" <badru.ntege at nftconsult.com> wrote:
>
> Chair
>
> A response from any of the responsible persons might be of value.
>
> I’m concerned that responses coming back to issues raised by community are
> not being given the due attention, with some glaring omissions which makes
> the members worry if we have all hands on deck.
>
> Would it be advisable to have some kind of SLA in how long it takes to
> respond to community and Member queries??
>
> I have noticed it takes quite some time for members to get an
> acknowledgement on issues raised.
>
> Regards
>
>
>
>
> On 6/15/17, 1:36 PM, "Noah" <noah at neo.co.tz> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 14 Jun 2017 3:29 p.m., "Alan Barrett" <alan.barrett at afrinic.net> wrote:
>
>
>> On 6 Jun 2017, at 22:19, Noah <noah at neo.co.tz> wrote:
>> Hi Chair,
>>
>> If the 39,199 was from members who defaulted and went out of business it
>> means the resources are no longer in use by those specific members.
>>
>> Did we recover those resources back into Afrinic inventory for
>> re-allocation/assignment?
>>
>> Can we please get a report on the space that was recovered as I couldnt
>> find that anywhere on the AFRINIC website.
>
> Although I was not asked this question, I perceive that some people may
> expect me to answer it.
>
>
> Hi Alan,
>
> Yes certainly....
>
>
> Yes, resources from members who go out of business are recovered.  The
> recovered resources are quarantined for two years, during which time they
> are marked as RESERVED in the WHOIS database.  After the ene of he
> quarantine period, the recovered resources are released to the pool for
> possible re-use.
>
> We do not publicise the names of the members concerned.  The reserved space
> may be found in raw data published at
> <ftp://ftp.afrinic.net/pub/stats/afrinic>.
>
>
>
> As far as I am concerned the list of members who defaulted and/or under
> closure used to be published for example the below AFRINIC link.
>
> http://web02.jnb.afrinic.net/community/policy-development/pdwg/1207-closure-list
>
> Why are we being less transparent about this now? In fact since 2014, how
> many members were closed up until 2017 as that record doesnt exist today?
>
> I also checked the
> ftp://ftp.afrinic.net/stats/afrinic/delegated-afrinic-extended-latest as you
> recommended.
>
> Are all those 2411 INR marked as “reserved”, resources from recovery?
>
> If not how can one tell the difference between which are the recovered space
> and everything else?
>
> Noah
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