[Community-Discuss] Confusion...

[Arnaud AMELINA]

+1000....

Le 21 juil. 2017 17:29, "ALAIN AINA" <aalain at trstech.net> a écrit :

>
> Andrew,
>
> Not so easy to forget. Even if you do some of us do remember and the
> archives are available:
>
> a) There was a Mr Alston  before  board mandate
> b)There was a Mr Alston  2014 -2017
> c) there is a Mr. Alston since AIS2017
>
> The a) was promising, full of energy, Mr Solution to everything, the
> anti-RPKI, etc….
>
> and b) came in and :
>
> * Promoted  AFRINIC governance as Top-Down
> * Promoted Trust-only, no-accontabiliy and no-transparency
> * Company act evangelist
> * Promoted AFRINIC as 8+1 people(registered members)  private company.
> Other members have limited powers, Community has none
> * Opposed most of the community proposals to improve accountability during
> the last accountability review
> * Supported  adopting changes  to bylaws for accountability review by vote
> on multiple resolutions instead of working out  a coherent consensual
>  draft bylaws.
> * Opposed Board member recall by members and community
> * Claimed to have rescued AFRINIC
> * Authored some controversial policy proposals
> * etc..
>
> And now, welcome c) who seem confused and lost:
>
>   *Dealing  with simple community member position subject  to past board
> member's NDA and reserve obligations
>   * Suffering from the Top-down  governance  enjoyed  during  b)
>   *Want all the powers to members and even Community
>  * Want 300% transparency
>   *Want 400% accountability
>   * Want PDP appeal procedure put in place
>   * Want a ASO members recall  procedure
>   * Want Mgmt audits published.
>   * Describe the rescued AFRINIC as the financially weakest RIR
>   * Concerned  by the membership fees compared to RIPE NCC
>  * Etc….
>
> I could easily understand your status and confusion. Welcome back inside
> the community. Hope you can manage.
>
> —Alain
>
>
> On 12 Jul 2017, at 06:40, Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com>
> wrote:
>
> I realized after it was pointed out that this had not gone to the list -
> so re-sending
>
> Andrew
>
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> _____________________________
> From: Andrew Alston <andrew.alston at liquidtelecom.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 08:08
> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Confusion...
> To: Sander Steffann <sander at steffann.nl>, Marcus K. G. Adomey <
> madomey at hotmail.com>
>
>
> Markus -
>
> You say that I am in a different orbit - so let me state what orbit I am
> in -
>
> I want total transparency - both on governance and financial issues
> I want to know how the money we as members is being spent and that it is
> well spent and justified - particularly considering that for large members
> the fees as in excess of 20 times the costs paid by RIPE members
> I want to be assured if our elected representatives are traveling on our
> dime - that the travel is justified and in the benefits of the members the
> organization is meant to serve
> I want to be assured that the board and the executive are at all times
> adhearing to the bylaws which we, as members, approved
> I want to be assured that the company operates to the letter of the law
> and to be assured that the actions they take do not create legal risk which
> may threaten the organization
> I want to ensure that the policies of the organization actually contribute
> to the growth of internet penetration on the continent, and do not merely
> serve to protect isps, but actually serve the general population of our
> continent.
> I want to ensure that the company is delivering on its mandate as clearly
> defined in section 3 of the bylaws.
>
> That my friend - is my orbit - so - if we are in different orbits - please
> - tell me yours and how it conflicts with the above - explain it to me -
> after all - do we not operate on a principal that dialog solves problems
> and builds consensus?
>
> Andrew
>
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